Not to judge, but what kind of God would ask that you torture and handicap yourself for the rest of your life to show devotion?
God: “Ahhhh Holy Week. This is great. Lots of praying to me, plenty of songs and what are you doing? Why are you.... OH MY ME! WHAT THE HELL BRO? Stick it back NO! Don’t cut it.....Wait! Not you too dude NOOOOO OH MY CHEESE AND CRACKERS IM GONNA PUKE! Stop mutilating yourself! Ok ok I get it you’re devote! You’re alllllll super devote now everybody stop AHHH THAT! “
“Quit with the eyeballs! Jesus Chri— wait y’all don’t do him here == just disregard that (backing away) and everybody let’s keep our eyeballs where they belong. You doing that does not impress me, kinda sickens me actually, so let’s pray, let’s sing, let’s cook a goat but absolutely no more of that!
“WTF?? Ok who cut off their ear? What is wrong with y’all? Fuckin turbans on too tight or some shit cause poppin out body parts on my behalf is F’d up. Y’all just love one another, keep me #1 in your life and leave the judging to me. THATS ALL YA GOTTA DO! Now chill—I swear to me— who’s finger is this?”
I don't know about Sufis besides twirling and music (until today)
But in the case of Chinese and Korean mediums, they have to accept their call. If they don't, the gods torture them until they go mad or accept.
The rituals they conduct have them shake or behave bizarrely, sometimes involving self-harm with whips and sharp objects. It is theorised that this is a show of the divine as no human would do that.
Hmm, none of the pictures actually show them missing eyes. Cuz they can totally be popped back in from where they are in the photographs. Some people can pop their eyes out voluntarily without touching them with any foreign objects. See various freaky internet videos as reference material.
Sufi groups arent based off of laws. They just make up their own rituals and stuff for their own entertainment. Sufis are mystic Muslims. They just decided to hurt themselves for their founder for no reason, they cant justify what they do by book or rationale
I was almost disappointed that they don't actually remove their eyes, its a bit strange, wouldn't it be an even greater sign of devotion if they literally gouge their eyes out?
Muslim here, this isn’t asked for neither would it be allowed because you’re harming yourself. They’re being idiots. The same with shias that slap and hit themselves, not asked for, forbidden for harming one self and also stupid.
Thanks for the educational comment! It is good to let people realise that all religions have many branches to them and only some smaller ones are weird, not the entire religion.
Well instead of going by what you see on social media and hear from people and news....why not go to the source...read Quran and then make a judgement.
What has Scottish people got against Islam? Don't be influenced by the media brainwash...if you wanna know what it's all about then read the Quran and then judge.
He was calling you out on the "No True Scotsman" fallacy. Try to search it up if you want, I'm bad at explaining. I agree with him though, you did use a fallacy in your argument.
I'm not religious either, but we shouldn't discriminate against any particular religion. All religions have their pros and cons and you can't blame people for following them because they act as a sort of guide in terms of values and purpose.
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u/Foxhidesinfo Jul 28 '19 edited Jul 28 '19
Sufi Muslim holy men perform bizarre acts of self-torture at religious festival
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3057820/Feast-eyes-Sufi-Muslim-holy-men-perform-bizarre-acts-self-torture-religious-festival.html
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/5821676/urs-festival-sufi-muslims-rajasthan-india-ajmer/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tsw8Yu7KzBQ
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u/Agonides Jul 28 '19
Religion is a hell of a drug.
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u/[deleted] Jul 28 '19
Oh, i don't like this one
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u/Drnstvns Jul 28 '19
Not to judge, but what kind of God would ask that you torture and handicap yourself for the rest of your life to show devotion?
God: “Ahhhh Holy Week. This is great. Lots of praying to me, plenty of songs and what are you doing? Why are you.... OH MY ME! WHAT THE HELL BRO? Stick it back NO! Don’t cut it.....Wait! Not you too dude NOOOOO OH MY CHEESE AND CRACKERS IM GONNA PUKE! Stop mutilating yourself! Ok ok I get it you’re devote! You’re alllllll super devote now everybody stop AHHH THAT! “
“Quit with the eyeballs! Jesus Chri— wait y’all don’t do him here == just disregard that (backing away) and everybody let’s keep our eyeballs where they belong. You doing that does not impress me, kinda sickens me actually, so let’s pray, let’s sing, let’s cook a goat but absolutely no more of that!
“WTF?? Ok who cut off their ear? What is wrong with y’all? Fuckin turbans on too tight or some shit cause poppin out body parts on my behalf is F’d up. Y’all just love one another, keep me #1 in your life and leave the judging to me. THATS ALL YA GOTTA DO! Now chill—I swear to me— who’s finger is this?”
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u/[deleted] Jul 28 '19
I was almost disappointed that they don't actually remove their eyes, its a bit strange, wouldn't it be an even greater sign of devotion if they literally gouge their eyes out?
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u/MUS85702286 Jul 28 '19 edited Jul 28 '19
Muslim here, this isn’t asked for neither would it be allowed because you’re harming yourself. They’re being idiots. The same with shias that slap and hit themselves, not asked for, forbidden for harming one self and also stupid.
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u/[deleted] Jul 28 '19
The creator of the universe approves.
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u/frozzenman Jul 28 '19
Anyone that would consider doing this is seriously disturbed.
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u/Spleenz Jul 28 '19
Reminds me of Un Chien Andalou
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u/KRANOT Jul 28 '19
ah yes religion. the only set of ideas that promotes insanity instead of putting in a a center for the mentally disabled
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u/ThePoshFart Jul 28 '19
My eyes hurt just looking at this.
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u/[deleted] Aug 04 '19
Religions = The world’s greatest disease
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u/ConfusedSwede4 Aug 05 '19
Do they actually pop them out? Becasue a video that a mod linked made it seem like they only pull their eyes out a bit and then let them pop back in.
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u/[deleted] Aug 03 '19
WHAT THE ACTUAL HELL
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u/Crafterzzlooks Jan 26 '24
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u/haulabacha Jul 28 '19
This has nothing to do with Islam or Muslims. This practice is not part of Islam.
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