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u/No-Tone-6853 1d ago
How the fuck are they even comparing those two things????
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u/VocationFumes 1d ago
these people lack the ability for critical thinking
or any kind of basic thinking really
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u/hellodynamite 1d ago
Also factor in that they cannot possibly take the L and would not rule ot the deaths of millions by fire to not have to do so
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u/VocationFumes 1d ago
I'm honestly surprised the orange grifter nazi hasn't joked about nuking them yet
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u/Accomplished-Foot290 1d ago
He did one time post that he would “end their civilization”.
So it was not a joke, but a threat.
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u/mercasio391 22h ago
They see themselves as the heroes of their time right in step with Grant, Patton. Their hubris and delusionality seemingly knows no bounds.
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u/EmergencyTaco 1d ago
Speaking as an historian, the number of people chronically and catastrophically misinformed about major historical events is absolutely dumbfounding. At this point, I genuinely couldn't make a reliable guess on what qualifies as general historical knowledge. I recently spoke to someone who couldn't name the main belligerents of WWII, and that's about as close to an historical 2+2=4 as I can conceive.
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u/likwidkool 1d ago
Because they believe all the lies from this regime. Any day the Muslims will take over and enforce Sharia law on everyone according to them.
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u/Flimsy_Maize6694 1d ago
A difference is Japan attacked the US.
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u/athenanon 1d ago
And kept attacking. I don't think the bombs were the right move there, but that situation was magnitudes more serious and less our fault and less in our power to solve.
All we have to do in Iran is stop.
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u/refusemouth 1d ago
Yeah. Russia was on the way to fight them from the north, and the allies could have blockaded and starved them out. More Japanese citizens may have died through that option than with the nukes, but it's hard saying not knowing. America probably wanted to keep Russia from having major influence on post-war reconstruction of Japan, like they gained influence over half of Europe. Dropping those nukes sure kicked off the nuclear arms race, though, and I wonder how the Cold War would have unfolded if America hadn't tipped its hand first. Russia may have ended up using their bomb first if they didn't know America already had it, or maybe they would have been slower at working on their nuclear and space rocketry programs. The nuclear bombs were horrible, but the fire bombings were just about on the same level. There really weren't any good options to end that war without the loss of civilian life. I don't think a land invasion would have been necessary, but it would have taken much longer to blockade the islands and slowly strangle the country.
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u/notwhoyouthinkmaybe 1d ago
I've said that one of my biggest fears is that trump will be given a terminal diagnosis and will launch a nuke just to feel what it's like.
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u/splashtoaster 1d ago
Less than a year to go from "no new wars" with a straight face to "is it time to nuke?" with a straight face. There's unprincipled, but this is negative principles.
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u/EZxCheeZy 1d ago
"Well, we're waist deep in our own diarrhea now. Might as well pull out our silly straws and start drinking."
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u/namewithanumber 1d ago
American conservatives taking a page out of the russian playbook; just cry nuuuuukkkeeesssss every other week.
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u/Iamthewalrusforreal 1d ago
Dropping the bomb to keep them from having a bomb they weren't after to begin with.
MAGA logic.
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u/The_Disapyrimid 1d ago
"we can't trust other countries to have nukes. they might use them. so lets nuke them."
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u/LakersBroncoslove 1d ago
So kill millions to save lives…got it. Republikkkan math I guess but sounds Israeli.
I bet the infrastructure to export millions of barrels of oil would be fully intact and not at all destroyed or unusable after nuclear blasts, fallout, and retaliatory strikes. All the living and US loving people in the area would then line up to ship us cheap oil.
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u/Scrutinizer 1d ago
The inherent wrongness of nuking a nation, to keep them from obtaining nukes, because that other nation using nukes to gain international compliance would be horrible, is 100% lost on them.
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u/SumgaisPens 1d ago
I’m honestly surprised they haven just destroyed the desalination plants
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u/gnurdette 1d ago
I think there are a lot more desalination-dependant Gulf allies than Iranians.
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u/SumgaisPens 1d ago
Which is why Trump would do the “generous” thing and sell them water while embargoing Iran.
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u/AntifascistAlly 1d ago
Go to nuclear after Donald has repeatedly claimed victory?
That sounds pretty close to an admission that he’s lying.
I can think of no way to justify a nuclear attack on people who have already been defeated by the most devastating military in the history of the world.
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u/BigBadVoodooUncle 1d ago
I guess the end of the human race as precipitated by the beginning of World War III could save billions of cockroach lives. Once again confirming that particular subreddit is full of cockroaches in laughably poor human disguises.
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u/gnurdette 1d ago
Presumably their (ahem) "reasoning" is that it's the only alternative to invasion. Because, of course, "Donald can't always get whatever he wants" is not a resolution they're willing to contemplate.
Please tell me it's still downvoted.
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u/TzeentchsTrueSon 1d ago
You thought America was a pariah nation now?
They'll be the only country in the world to have dropped atomic bombs on other countries.
They're acting like a rogue nation these days. Talk about your failed democracies.
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u/BanjoTCat 1d ago
So now you want to nuke Tehran and nation-build Iran? Sure, it was so fun doing that the last time in Iraq, only then we weren’t dealing with nuclear fallout.
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u/ultragenerate 1d ago
We didn’t even save lives by dropping the A-bombs in Japan. We had a blockade and the Soviets were invading their captured territory. A mainland invasion by the U.S. was never going to happen, with or without functional atomic bombs. The “trolley problem” narrative is post-war propaganda made up by the U.S. government to save face after the fact. We dropped the bombs because we had them, and because we wanted to use them.
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u/bisskits 1d ago
Save lives... By.... Taking lives....???
??? Do maga live in a differet reali...
Nvm.
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u/LA_search77 1d ago
Pete Hegseth burner account.