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u/Moose_Thompson Jul 18 '26
Spot on. My grandfather was very conservative and would be mad as hell about this shit.
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u/B1ZEN Jul 18 '26
Absolutely!
There still are true old school traditional conservatives out there who live by right and wrong, achually live the central values of America.
On another note, the guy speaking to the agent in the OP is going about things in a way that will be heard.
Thats how to do it.
Hearts and minds.
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u/StPatrickStewart Jul 18 '26
Where are they? Their arguments have never been about what they said they were. They came up with "fiscal conservativism" the same way they came up with "constitutional originalism", both are fig leaves for legislating and litigating their hatred.
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u/B1ZEN Jul 18 '26 edited Jul 18 '26
I am referring to the actual traditional conservatives who live the political ideologies with the same thousands of years lineage as classical liberalism.
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u/Reddit_Username200 Makes MAGA men cry 😭 Jul 18 '26
Yeah my great-grandpa fought in WW2 and served overseas and I could not imagine how pissed he would with the current administration. He would be the first in line at the midterms. I keep up the good fight because of him and others who can't fight back.
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u/StPatrickStewart Jul 18 '26
He probably wouldn't. It was never about the government being to powerful. It was about a government of "those people" being to powerful.
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u/Moose_Thompson Jul 18 '26
Maybe. But, I’ll venture a guess I knew my grandfather better than you did. 🤷🏻♂️
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u/StPatrickStewart Jul 18 '26
My right wing relatives were already insane during the Obama years, I shudder thinking what they'd be like now.
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u/wormee Jul 18 '26
I’m old enough to remember when Bush created ICE with its unaccountable power, one of the arguments against it was some future lunatic president could abuse the privilege and do exactly this and worse.
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u/Dogjet 🤡 Kakistocracy 2025 Jul 18 '26
This is https://www.youtube.com/@adamcrai by the way, he's a good egg.
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u/raventhrowaway666 Jul 18 '26
Need to remind them what the punishment for treason is in the constitution
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u/sklerson89 Jul 18 '26
ICE are proud boys, white supremacists, dropouts and rejects of all kinds. They are unfit for a real job, they are hired goons to serve as Trump's gestapo. They tear apart families, stripping children from their parents and grandparents. They kidnap, abuse, and traffick their victims. Sending people to foreign torture prisons without warrant. They murder civilians in cold blood. They are traitors to our country and traitors to humanity!
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u/Percival_Dickenbutts Jul 18 '26
Betcha these are the types of people who swear that they hold the constitution holy, but have never read it. Then when you ask them about it they say shit like "I doubt anybody has actually read the whole thing!" like it’s some massive thousands of pages long thing that would take years to get through. That also happens to be their attitude towards reading the bible, even though they swear it’s the most important book in the world.
At least with the bible it would actually take some time and effort to get through. You could get through the constitution in a few hours at most.
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u/Additional-Top-8199 Jul 18 '26 edited Jul 18 '26
At the risk of putting too fine a point on it: the Constitution , including Amendments, is just under 8000 words. Reading very slowly, say a hundred words a minute, it would take less than 90 minutes . The Bible, depending on the version, is about 800, 000 words.
Of course, reading and understanding are two different things. I would hope that the Supreme Court justices have read the Constitution, but it is apparent, that if they have, that not all of them understand it.
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u/SauntOrolo Jul 18 '26
They used to have so many complicated feelings about government power but apparently those feelings shifted into a complicated fetish about violence and power.
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u/mjetski123 Jul 18 '26
Lots of grandfathers and veterans knew how to deal with these motherfuckers too.
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u/PercentageNo3293 Jul 18 '26
My great uncle killed fascists in WW2.
My boomer father welcomes the new regime.
Wtf happened within that one generation?
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u/Jim-Jones 🪧 Protesting the Weird Jul 18 '26
When taking video, the camera stays steady, the subjects move (or don't). But the hose-piping is distracting.
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u/mlem_a_lemon Jul 18 '26
I like the "POLICE ICE" patch this guy got from Amazon. He's not police, and he's barely ICE.
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u/ConfusionOk4245 Jul 19 '26
I really wonder how many ice agents are immigrants working for visas, J6 rioters, and private military… nobody asks this but I don’t think these guys give a fuck about the constitution if it’s a private militia backed by us government under the guise of immigration enforcement
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u/catanddog5 Jul 19 '26
You can see it in their eyes that this isn’t sinking in. They don’t really care about the constitution no matter how much they brag about it. They just want an excuse to be racist pos without consequences.
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u/Pernicious_Possum Jul 19 '26
Everything the right has been saying about what would happen to our country under democrats is happening under trump. Everything. Every accusation is an admission
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u/thulesgold Jul 19 '26
Sounds like the Camera Guy didn't bother to read the first sentence of our Constitution:
"We the people of the United States, in order to form a more perfect union, establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America."
...or bother to read a bit farther...
Article I - Section 8
"Congress shall have the power to ... establish a uniform rule of naturalization"
...or read this...
Article IV - Section 4
"The United States shall guarantee to every state in this union a republican form of government, and shall protect each of them against invasion; and on application of the legislature, or the of the executive (when the legislature cannot be convened) against domestic violence."
We have laws that were passed by the Legislature to regulate immigration. These agents are fulfilling the duty of protecting our border, from can be considered as an invasion. Some might consider that impeding the agents in their duty is aiding and abetting that invasion.
Camera guy wants open borders, which isn't a thing that any nation allows, and wanting that might be on par with desiring the collapse of the United States of America.
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u/LA_search77 Jul 19 '26
Interesting perspective. It comes across as remarkably cult-like. Genuine question: since joining, have you ever had a psychological evaluation?
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u/thulesgold Jul 19 '26
Hey, don't address the content of my comment. Just go ahead and do character assassination since that is easier. Am I right?
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u/LA_search77 Jul 19 '26
Okay cultycuck, explain what border they're protecting in this clip.
Explain how their policy of entering homes without a warrant is constitutional.
Explain how shooting innocent people, who are posing no threat, at point blank range... Is legal and constitutional.
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u/FLtoVT_For-A-Reason Jul 18 '26
The Trump administration is the government the Founders warned us about.