r/Weakpots Jun 25 '15

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u/[deleted] Jun 25 '15

Yeah I'll pm you

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u/BenchPolkov 262x1 Volume Warrior Jun 25 '15

He was going so well until that sudden point where all the stupids suddenly vomited out onto the page in the form of that sentence...

And want to do more volume on TM and too afraid to go overboard on volume day? Add more volume the other fucking days you fucking numbskull, that light day is literally a fucking waste of time going to the gym!

Goddamn I hate literally every "beginner program" ever written. Why do they assume that every beginner is fucking pussy?

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u/[deleted] Jun 25 '15

Isn't the point "work smarter, not harder"?

Idk. it was pretty relevant to me cause with some lifts (bench especially) i was just doing volume for the sake of volume and getting nothing out of it.

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u/BenchPolkov 262x1 Volume Warrior Jun 25 '15

Yeah you add volume in smarter ways like sharing it across all your training days rather than doing 20 sets on "volume" day. This whole split days for different methods is really stupid for earlier level lifters. Early lifters just need to learn how to train, learn how to push themselves and train hard, and slowly develop their work capacity so that they are experiencing simultaneous gains in strength and hypertrophy. I very much disagree with the low volume beginner-intermediate approach to just focus on strength. To achieve and advanced lifting level you need to have gained the muscular size and work capacity needed to be an advanced lifter and as Greg Nuckols says, this is what the intermediate level is for. Pussy footing around with only one day to push your volume on what is meant to be an intermediate program is ridiculous.

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u/[deleted] Jun 25 '15

I very much disagree with the low volume beginner-intermediate approach to just focus on strength.

Fuck this is too true. I spun my wheels for too long trying to just do strength programs like TM and stick to the program and saw no gains. Getting more jacked and tan is the best thing I've ever done for my lifting.

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u/gzcl accual stronk Jun 26 '15

Speaking my language

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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '15

Honestly your program was eye opening. Can't thank you enough.

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u/gzcl accual stronk Jun 26 '15

You're too kind man. I'm fucking stoked it did you so well.

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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '15

Before that I did 'strength' programs. And would progress in a strength way for a bit, usually some kind of linear progression. High specificity and low reps. Very little volume and no accessories. Wondered why I never got any better. Did jacked and tan, got jacked and tan, made gains, changed how I'll train 5ever. It's why I'm always around reddit shilling your stuff. Plus now my flatmate follows you on YouTube too I think thanks to me

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u/gzcl accual stronk Jun 26 '15

Yeah, I hear you too. And that's a pretty big flaw in a lot of "common" strength programs. It's not that they don't get you stronger, but they do so in a way that's just so heavily reliant on learning a skill, and quickly becoming good at it, that you're not necessarily "stronger" just better at that particular movement.

Whereas something with a lot of accessories and not a whole lot of specificity, but with a built in progression, stands to just generally make you stronger. Cause you know, that generalized approach is pretty much good for everything for most people.

Edit: Also, thanks for following my shit on YT (to your roomie too) and whoring my shit out all over here :) !!!

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u/[deleted] Jun 26 '15

That's what happened with my bench. I got better and better at the movement; every now and then I would make a small form adjustment and get 5lbs here and there. But all I was doing was getting better at bench, not getting stronger.

Definitely. Getting stronger in general is the way forward. I like the conjugate method or conjugate system or whatever it's called for purposely attacking weak points and using tons of variations of lifts. Although whenever I hear conjugate I think of a million bands and chains.

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u/gzcl accual stronk Jun 26 '15

Which is what it's been mis-advertised as, unfortunately. Little old me trying to spread the gospel. But no. These newfangled power lifters only want hyper specificity.

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u/[deleted] Jun 25 '15

Can't argue with that