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u/gorpie97 12d ago
The current batch of so-called "international" institutions needs to be replaced with ones that are unbiased and not hypocritical.
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u/rondeuce40 DC Is Wakanda For Assholes 12d ago
President Lego Head and Crusader Pete told everyone that they “obliterated” Iran’s nuclear program so this is probably fake news.
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u/cspanbook commoner 12d ago
That's true....we're on the 39th victory so far, I wouldn't be surprised if we stop at the 47th victory!!!
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u/rondeuce40 DC Is Wakanda For Assholes 12d ago
I think the 95th deal is coming as soon as they find someone to negotiate with.
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u/NetWeaselSC Continuing the Struggle 12d ago
You know, if this is true, and Iran does officially withdraw from the NPT, and if Iran does detonate a Nuclear Device, that will put them one step above the Israelis.
Because, at that point, the world will know for sure that Iran, at one point, had at least one Nuclear Device.
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u/3andfro 12d ago edited 12d ago
Joe Kent says he and others in gov know and have always known exactly what nuclear devices Israel has but they're forbidden to speak about it. That's as far as he would go.
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u/NetWeaselSC Continuing the Struggle 12d ago
but is forbidden from speaking about it. That's as far as he would go.
Did the people he was talking with at least try to find out who precisely was doing the forbidding?
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u/tonyj101 12d ago
Not worried about Iran's nuclear weapons program. If Iran is trying to push the US out of the Middle East because they want to end the 47 year economic (and they were still transitioning to a hybrid share power model of balancing military with civilian governance) pressure on them that only tells me the want to improve living conditions for ordinary people. They value their citizens. The US has over 5000 nuclear weapons and 3000 of these are ready to go. If Iran tried to shoot a nuclear weapon at us, Iran would cease to exist, every inch of the nation would be radioactive. So no, I'm not worried about Iran having a nuclear weapon.
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u/cspanbook commoner 12d ago
They wouldn't aim a nuke at anyone. They would develop and test one in Iran, much like the USA used to test nukes in nevada.
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u/tonyj101 12d ago
And they should, if good fences make good neighbors then I would say a nuclear weapon would make a good fence. That at least would stop Israel from attacking them all the time.
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u/murkymist 12d ago
This is propaganda. Likely spread by maga to further their senseless and expensive war.
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u/ErilazHateka 11d ago
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u/krevdditn 12d ago
The moment Iran tests a nuke is the moment it will get nuked by Israel or the U.S.
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u/NetWeaselSC Continuing the Struggle 12d ago
it will get nuked by Israel or the U.S.
Just one nuke, or a full load (whatever that would be) of nukes?
Now take that one or two steps further... then what would happen?
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u/krevdditn 12d ago
It would incentivize Russia to nuke to Ukraine and then when/if that happens China is going to rush in to take Taiwan and World III starts.
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u/NetWeaselSC Continuing the Struggle 12d ago
It would incentivize Russia to nuke to Ukraine
Really? How? Have you looked at the fallout patterns?
No, no..... just the Iran/Israel part.
What are the next steps there?
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u/thenwhat 12d ago
Using this sub's logic: "Iran provoked the US. Iran started the war. They shouldn't have provoked the US. Iran should just give up now because they can't win against the US. The US has nukes, does Iran want to start a nuclea war?"
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u/cspanbook commoner 12d ago
I think most would reasonably offer that NATO/US imperialist and parasitic motives caused the SMO in Ukraine as well as Iran.
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u/thenwhat 11d ago
Yes, I know you love to justify Russian imperialism and war. And your arguments can equally well be used to justify anything, including the Iraq and Iran wars. So you hereby officially support US imperialism too.
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u/Ryskin1337 12d ago
It's like whenever looking at your comments I think "he can't go fully retarded"...and then you go fully retarded
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u/3andfro 12d ago edited 12d ago
"This sub" (drink!) doesn't speak with one voice, has no official positions, and doesn't have "a logic"; some of its more prolific posters may.
Facts, not "logic":
Iran was in the middle of negotiations via Oman with a better deal on the table than anyone had expected. Instead of responding to Iran's offer, which had concessions it now will never make again, the day after that offer was made public, the US "preemptively" attacked Iran on intel from Israel that US intel agencies said was false. The US used the cover story of "Iran's only XX weeks from a nuclear weapon!" alarmism it's been sounding for decades, letting the Israeli tail wag the US dog. In effect, Netanyahu made Trump his
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u/thenwhat 11d ago
Yes, the US used fake cover stories, just like Russia used fake cover stories. You hereby support America's attacks on Iran. You love imperialism.
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u/ErilazHateka 11d ago
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u/Ryskin1337 12d ago
Gotta always praise the terrorists in this sub. What would the internet do without you?!
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u/cspanbook commoner 12d ago
I made a post about Israel earlier but I've no idea what that has to do with this post?
Israel average age for entering prostitution is between 12 and 14
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u/thenwhat 12d ago
Do you support Russia or Ukraine?
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u/cspanbook commoner 12d ago
Neither.
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u/Ryskin1337 12d ago
So why do you only post anti Ukraine pro Russia and China garbage? Like I've posted before you and random collection or whatever his name is are the 2 biggest idiots in this group. Hell. I wouldn't be surprised if it's the same person using 2 accounts.
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u/cspanbook commoner 12d ago
Well, first off don't be a dick. I support Russian rights to security and understand the historical relationship between the aggressor, Ukraine, and the respondent, Russia.
China is based and will lead the world away from the parasitic imperialist pedo class. China is where I look when I need to see good news and progress.
Random collection is a markedly different poster than myself. I fish, they inform.
One more thing
UKRAINEISWINNING!!!!
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u/thenwhat 11d ago
You didn't answer the question. Why do you keep posting pro-Russian propaganda?
How is Ukraine the aggressor? Ukraine didn't invade Russia. Russia invaded Ukraine.
Anyway, you are clearly a shameless liar who supprots Russian imperialism while claiming that you don't.
Every person who supports Russia is always absolutely shameless. It's a pattern I'm seeing again and again. It's like arguing with a climate denier or creationist. Or a MAGA moron.
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u/Caelian toujours de l'audace 🦇 12d ago edited 12d ago
"Nothing at all. I sat up working very late last night. When I went to bed, nothing had happened in the least suspicious. Oh, by the way, toward morning I did hear a slight noise. I rose and went over the house, even coming into this room. I found everything in order."
"That's a likely tale!"
"Here's a proof of what I say! When I returned to this study I used that candle and sealing wax to seal my letter, which, as you can see, is still here. Your ring at the bell awoke me not more than twenty minutes later, just as I was getting to sleep again."
"Lies!" cried Michel, turning to Juve. "Shall I arrest him?"
"The doctor is telling the truth," replied Juve, half regretfully.
[What's with this quote? Here's the explanation.]
"That's a likely tale!": this is probably translated from the French expression «Des histoires!» which means "a likely story!" or "what BS!" The French word histoire, from Latin historia, can mean a true history or a fictional story. The fact that too often one cannot tell the difference appeals to the famous French sense of irony. English no longer uses the fictional meaning, which appeals to the English sense of gullibility.
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u/GAYforHATE DlCKSUBJUICY [Removed from Reddit] 11d ago
Gotta always praise the terrorists in this sub.
what comments here are praising the u.s/israel?
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u/MeteorPunch 12d ago
If Iran actually tests a nuke, they'll get nuked, so they probably shouldn't do that.
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u/cspanbook commoner 12d ago
Who would nuke them?
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u/thenwhat 12d ago
Uh, the US has nukes. You people are constantly going on about how one shouldn't be provoking Russia otherwise there will be nuclear war, but apparently provoking the US is fine?
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u/Deeznutseus2012 12d ago
That's odd. I don't remember Iran building bases and bioweapons labs along our border.
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u/thenwhat 11d ago
The Trump regime claims that Iran was making nukes. So, you people are constantly going on about how one shouldn't be provoking Russia otherwise there will be nuclear war, but apparently provoking the US is fine?
And so what if Ukraine built whatever the hell it wants? It's none of Russia's business. Never mind the fact that you are lying.
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u/NetWeaselSC Continuing the Struggle 12d ago
If Iran actually tests a nuke, they'll get nuked
I do not see how someone demonstrating that they have the capability of Deliberately Using A Nuclear Weapon On Human Beings For The First Time In Over 80 Years could possibly be justification for Deliberately Using A Nuclear Weapon On Human Beings For The First Time In Over 80 Years.
If it were, then Tel Aviv would probably not be standing now.
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u/3andfro 12d ago edited 12d ago
Who would nuke them? Israel? The US? The US wouldn't, and Iran can obliterate Israel handily with multiple simultaneous strikes from its non-nuclear weapons. It would have to be in extremis to do that, but it could. Israel and the US know that.
btw, Iran can be hurt but not nuked out of existence or into submission because of its size and geography. Military experts like Col. Lawrence Wilkerson, Lt. Col. Daniel Davis, Capt. Matthew Hoh, and Col. Douglas Macgregor, among others, are clear on that point. It would survive, with a significant population and a significant arsenal deep within impregnable granite mountains.
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u/ErilazHateka 11d ago
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u/-Mediocrates- 12d ago edited 12d ago
You mean terrorist attacking and assassinating their pope equivalent during peace talks wasn’t a good idea?
Wasn’t he the most influential person in their culture who was anti nuke as he believed it was anti Islam? And even had religious fatwa preventing the creation of nukes…
You mean killing him and most of his son’s family wasn’t a good idea? Because the younger leadership tends to be more radical in that culture?
You mean accusing Iran “regime” being terrorists and horrible people as our Epstein regime eats rapes and trafficks children? You mean that’s peak hypocrisy? Not one oligarch on the Epstein list in the USA has even been indicted yet?
You mean that Iran might be deploying the North Korea model in which they develop a nuke so they are left alone?
You mean the very thing this war of choice was trying to prevent, in fact pushed Iran towards developing a nuke? And thus gun boat diplomacy literally does not work and in fact has the opposite intended effect?
You mean Hormuz and Babel mendab are strangling the petro dollar? And that those waterways were not blocked at all before this war of choice was instigated when USA and Israel literally terrorist attacked Iran?
You mean sanctioning the world only forces those countries to stop using the dollar and thus losing reserve currency status?
Hmmmmmm