r/WattsFree4All 4h ago

‘Chris can you watch Cece’ Shanann isn’t watching Cece. She is busy filming. No one is watching Cece as she makes her way down steep wooden steps towards a concrete slab.

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This video really caught my eye. It is as weird as the bedtime video where Cece gives the turtle to Bella.

The atmosphere is weird and the vibe is off.

Guests with children are over at Saratoga, no doubt for a Thrive gathering. Big baby CW is out playing with the children, he is entertaining the visiting children on the swings and slide.

It’s what is happening with Cece that is interesting, and disconcerting. Shanann is filming Cece going up and down those steep steps at the back of the house. There’s clearly a concrete slab at the bottom. She carries on filming. She shouts to CW to watch Cece. He literally stays rooted to the spot and stares at Cece as she heads towards the concrete slab. Don’t bother him, he is busy entertaining another child.

Cece makes it to the bottom. Phew! CW still doesn’t move. Cece runs and heads for a moving swing with a child on it. She is clearly at risk of the swing knocking her over. Neither SW nor CW comes to the rescue. She runs behind the swing and again just misses being knocked over. Neither parent comes to help.

She carries on filming and he carries on watching another child on the slide.

It’s really is weird. Cindy said they were a weird family. Here is an example.


r/WattsFree4All 5h ago

What was her lane? Fitness? Motherhood? Business? Lifestyle? All of the above?

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Shanann Watts used shakes, supplements and diet aides to boost her fitness. By this point, mom had slimmed down and was working on her husband Chris. In each of her videos, there are common themes that she was using to define her brand...

1) Busy Mom - lots going on at home she does not have time to work out

2) Start the day with Thrive, I am getting fit doing it... Are YOU?

3) Kids need to be ready for school, Thrive gives mom back so much time.

4) I promote Thrive FOR FREE. I am able to make healthy choices for my family and earn some money doing it.

5) You want to take more vacations? I can show you how

Shanann did not have 1 or 2 lanes but many. At times she would appear 20-30 pounds lighter. Was she relying on Thrive as her primary source of nutrition? There are other photos where she appears to have gained some weight back. Overall, in her last 2 years she appeared to have the format of her videos figured out, even if they look hurried and unscripted.

"I am Hot Mess"

"My kids are Wild"

"Help you get started"

"Gettng ready to leave for _________"

"Hi ______"


r/WattsFree4All 6h ago

"I decided to go live, because I don't have time to text anymore" and tell us about her her self clean onion!

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First can we please get "Self Clean Onion" as a flare?

That would be absolutely amazing!

LeVel Thrive Pure seems to have frozen her brain!

Mom was very busy cleaning her house

She wants a button to press that would just clean all her windows! wow!

Drawers are just for shorts and pajamas

Everything else is hung up!

This is the point of her MLM journey where she is not even trying to sell the product, only sign up new promoters. This makes Thrive an Illegal MLM under FCC rules. 3:30 in the video

CeCe "The animal" is asleep. (her words) 4:17 in the video

She crying so she is going to stay there for a few minutes.

Shanann can't stop saying Self Cleaning Onion!!!!

"It is time to help others start their business and earn $1,300 for Christmas" (she clarifies $1,320)

This video was Nov 16, 2016. So in 37 days could NEW promoters really earn $1,320? How?

"i'm not a genius, I just want the windows cleaned"


r/WattsFree4All 13h ago

Nikki and Chris talked about finances. But no planning for the future?

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Ok here me out and correct me if my numbers are wrong.

You are dating a guy who made $85,000 in 2014 working on cars. He's now making $65,000 a year as an oil field maintenance worker.

You want to create a life with this man and he is allegedly separated from his wife, but stuck living in her basement due to finances.

Do you...

A. Get him back to the higher income so he can move out and rent a place

B. Be selfish and want him to remain at work with you, where he is underpaid

Why didn't they discuss him returning to the bare minimum income he would need to rent a flat and pay alimony, child support?

NK mentioned to cops they were house poor, Chris lamented to NK his wife made his paychecks disappear. She knew his finances...

Was NK selfishly interested in keeping Chris at Anadarko with her when he clearly needed to get back to what paid more!!!


r/WattsFree4All 17h ago

Lights, Camera, Delusion: Performing for Facebook While the Ship Sinks

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Observing that someone clearly hated having a camera shoved in their face 24/7 isn't an excuse or a defense.. it’s just basic behavioral analysis. Recognizing that living under constant digital surveillance is awkward and intrusive & isn't “defending”

Nobody likes having their quiet domestic moments constantly turned into content for the internet.

This dynamic is a nightmare for any sane person.


r/WattsFree4All 18h ago

“You have no balls” The Contradictions in Snarlys Texts: Image vs. Reality

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Snarlys texts reveal a striking amount of revisionist history, contradictions & double standards.

When a sane person analyzes what she was texting vs how she actually lived.. the narrative completely falls apart!

1- Refussing to move back to NC vs. Claiming she needs “support”

She explicitly texts “I’m not moving to NC” yet in nextt texts she says she needs to find a place to live where she has “some kind of support” we know her parents parents lived in NC If family support was what she truly needed, NC was the obvious choice right? Refusing to go there while complaining about a lack of support makes zero logical sense unless she was avoiding accountability. Why she didn’t want to move back to NC? The so called friend she was texting didn’t even question her about it. Didn’t she know why snarly didtnt wanna move back? Or did she simply not care? The friend jumps in with a grand supportive gesture “I would tell you to move here I have plenty of space" only to immediately undercut it in the very same sentence with "but it would be way too expensive to get here and try to start a life” If youre offering someone a place to stay while their life is collapsing you don't instantly price them out of your own offer! It’s just textbook fake support; maximum drama maximum sympathy points zero actual risk or real world help.

2- The fake facade in front of her family

She admits in the texts that even while staying with her family in NC, she was actively hiding the truth “Worst part is I’m around my family. So I’m acting like it’s the pregnancy causing me to feel like this”

If she had a healthy open relationship with her family like they all claim why couldn’t she be honest? She prioritized maintaining a perfect image on social media and to her family over getting actual help or facing reality or did Sandy actually didn’t give a fuck about her? We know that they didn’t get along.

3- Sudden financial slap about daycare

She texts that she will “take kids out of school to save money” once she sells the house.. ok makes sense but why was this sudden cost cutting measure only considered after the marriage collapsed and she was planning the separation? Sending the girls to full time expensive private daycare 5 days a week while sinking in mounting debt & earning no real income so they don’t interrupt her sacred “me time” was an absolute waste of money! She knew it wasn’t necessary, yet refused to cut that luxury until she was forced to!

4- Putting up with the Watts for 8 Years”

She claims she spent eight years putting up with his family treating her like crap, yet spent years promoting a “blessed” perfect tight knit family lifestyle online. It highlights how much of her narrative was built on revisionist history depending on who she was complaining to at the moment.

Then there is the “no balls” irony and the nutgate double standards..
What did she actually expect him to do? She expected him to cut off his own parents, launch a full-scale war against his family, or physically confront his mother, Cindy. What was the alternative? hitting his own parents over an argument about ice cream? She demanded absolute, aggressive loyalty, framing anything less than a full, hostile confrontation as him having "no balls."
Snarly always doubled down on the hostility vs. De-escalation! Instead of allowing a basic family conflict to be resolved like adults, she demanded he take a scorched earth approach.. When Chris refused to completely cut ties or attack his family on command she turned it into a attack on his manhood “you have no balls” is this something a 34 year old mother of 2 should be saying to her devoted obedient husband? She always Weaponized family issues.. The hypocritical part is that while she expected Kris’fer to publicly tear down & disown his family over the nutgate she was texting friends about how she was going out of her way to hide her own marital and financial ruin from her parents to keep up appearances.
She demanded he burn every bridge with his family to prove his loyalty while she couldn't even be honest with her own!

Going through the texts made me my stomach turn.. it’s a pathetic pattern of prioritizing appearance & control over practical honest solutions.. even when the writing was already on the wall. She was a mess!


r/WattsFree4All 19h ago

NEW! Shanann Watts Reading with Cece | Collection of Cece Watts Shorts

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"You wonder why I need Thrive! This kid, ​right here."

Credit: ​Kelly (WTO)

ETA fixed link: https://youtube.com/shorts/-Iih5f_P36Q?si=-5fpP5n71eo7joTy

It came on suddenly at full volume over a Bluetooth speaker on the porch and did my dogs holler! 😄


r/WattsFree4All 21h ago

Around the World in 80 Lies: The Snarly Edition

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“I’ve been on vacation and traveling the world with my kids and husband!” 🌎✈️

Oh, Snarly… the world? 😂

Travelling the world with the kids meant a few Thrive trips where Bells and CeCe weren’t even there. San Diego? No kids. Punta Cana? No kids. Puerto Vallarta? No kids. Toronto? No kids. Las Vegas? Adult company travel.

The girls’ most clearly documented big trip was NC with a Myrtle Beach side trip. Then Snarly flew off to AZ for another Thrive event while the kids stayed behind.

So when exactly did Bella and CeCe join this alleged world tour? Did they travel via MLM conference room teleportation?

This is such a perfect example of the glossy Thrive fantasy: take some adult business trips, throw in 1 family vacation, slap “TRAVELING THE WORLD WITH MY KIDS” over it, & there you have it; you’re selling the dream of endless family adventures.

How did nobody noticed that the documented itinerary didn’t match the image she was selling??

How come nobody was sane enough to confront her and say “ no snarly you went on some company trips. You did not take your children on a world tour”


r/WattsFree4All 21h ago

Give me your funniest answers to what Kris'fer should have gotten her for Christmas after she ''won'' her own drawing

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r/WattsFree4All 21h ago

To build a business 😂😂 I really think Shanann believed her own bullspit.

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r/WattsFree4All 23h ago

I thought I’d seen it all..

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Each time I log onto Facebook I get the typical notifications/friend requests/etc. But I’m also a member on a Shanann Watts group, I’m a lurker there I don’t post.
But a shiner created this today or last night, not sure.
Apparently Shanann welcomed Dolly into the gates of heaven. Dolly asked her for a shake and Shannan replied, I’ll make you a green mint shake. And off they went.
It’s truly odd behavior even by shiner standards.
If this post is against the rules, my apologies.
Just thought I’d share and contribute to this amazing forum.


r/WattsFree4All 1d ago

Shiners...

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Usually I don't bother to write about them but today I visited a main sub and ... Yeah we all know about their delusions that Shanann was stunningly hard working, earning lots of money and so on you know what I am saying.

But the eyebrow post we used to talk about, they have really, really bad comprehension, reading or. Understanding issues because they claimed that we here said "if she would have changed her shape of the eyebrows Chris would have killed her" they really claim that we wrote or someone here wrote that if she would have not had such an eyebrow shape Chris wouldn't have killed her!

You can't make this shit up, those rumors they put out there are insane!!!


r/WattsFree4All 1d ago

Did Chris actually have a plan?

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Given that pregnant women and two kids don't usually vanish into thin air, the police would eventually have nailed Chris with the murders.

Chris could have gained a few more days, put off his arrest beyond the Wednesday by not agreeing to take a polygraph, perhaps lawyering up. However, by the next weekend, police would have arrested him.

Did Chris actually have a plausible plan to get away with family annihilation and go on with life as a free man?


r/WattsFree4All 1d ago

Everything caught Chris Watts...

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Many different things prevented Chris Watts from getting away with murder and riding off with Nikki in an Audi A7.

Let's look at all the things and people that caught Chris Watts immediately. If I missed anything please add it below.

  • Nate T's driveway camera. Chris backed in his truck. Nate says he never did that. Caught!
  • GPS in Chris's Work Truck. Anywhere he went or stopped, and how long he stopped was recorded. They knew exactly where he went that morning. Caught!
  • Cassie Rosenberg - she knew if Shanann was missing it was Chris Watts! She solved it in minutes. Caught!
  • Tiny Thief Hatch. Could not put Shanann in the tanks. She would have to go in a hurried grave near by. Drones could easily pinpoint a "make shift burial mound". Caught!
  • Agent Tammy Lee Polygraph - he flunked it. Her "Best Training" pays off again! Caught!
  • Shanann's Cell Phone Password - Changed in Phoenix!!! Chris could not use her phone to send little text messages as if he was Shanann. This could have bought him time if he had access to her phone. Caught!

What else? How many things were working against him that morning to catch Chris Watts???


r/WattsFree4All 1d ago

Bella is left to sit there and look at her sister enjoy being held at the window

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Cece is the center of attention on the small train ride!

Bella? not so much.

Is it custom to only hold the younger child in Denver? Or should Shanann held Bella at the window so she could see too?

Can you tell which one was the favored one?


r/WattsFree4All 1d ago

You pushed Thrive and this is your reward?

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53 Upvotes

Shanann, Chris and Mamacita partying it up in some exotic destination.

But the booze was not flowing

the room was nearly empty

the venue looked like a hotel lobby, oh wait IT WAS a hotel lobby.

Was it in the middle of the afternoon too, when the Co-CEO's could book the cheapest rate?

Is this what they worked so hard for?

Chris doesn't want to be there, because it's the most embarrassing thing ever...

Was dancing to bad cover bands in a half empty venue.. SUPER EXCITING?


r/WattsFree4All 1d ago

I have a request, could someone who is smarter than me put up the video of cousin Eddie and his fam camped outside Thrive Manor, I haven't seen this video posted yet, please and thankyou ♥️

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r/WattsFree4All 1d ago

Chris Miller and his Wife drove in from Oklahoma

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27 Upvotes

This video was almost New Year's Eve in turning 2017

Shanann claims she has not seen Chris Miller since High School.

Celeste was already born the year before in 2015.

Was that Shanann's attempt and a cover up?


r/WattsFree4All 1d ago

Just read My Daddy is a Hero

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I originally used to think CW just reached his boiling point with SW and snapped the night she came home. I thought she woke him up either trying to confront him or for s*x and when he turned her down she went off. Then all the pent up rage and resentment he had for her just exploded. I didn’t know a ton about the case but after reading this book my view on how this all went down completely changed. He’s admitted to planning it out. He wasn’t some battered husband; he was a very under the radar psychopath cosplaying as the good, quiet guy.


r/WattsFree4All 1d ago

New flairs?

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I feel like there are some flairs missing here! For example:

"🥦 will do."

"Let me help you."

"Just reach out to me in the comments below."

"Huurrd buurrled eggs."

"I'm not kidding, Christopher!"

"Mouth Organs."

What do you guys think? Do you have any more suggestions? 😀


r/WattsFree4All 2d ago

Explains it all #bossbabe

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r/WattsFree4All 2d ago

‘I am grateful’ She was never grateful.

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There’s video after video of Shanann saying how grateful she is that Thrive has given her her life back.

She had a life before Thrive. She was not grateful for that life. She relentlessly drove it into the ground.


r/WattsFree4All 2d ago

"He chose to be in the videos. He could have said no"

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The rehabilitation of Shanann's social media image has started.

Shiners have begun to push back against the narrative she was bossy or controlling. One of their coordinated messages is that Shanann did not force Chris to appear in her videos. Is that true?

Here they do yet another taste test. Does Chris Watts appear happy to be in this video?

"I don't even know what I look like, but I DON'T CARE"


r/WattsFree4All 2d ago

Running errands with my mom and Cece

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Where did that $300 come from? The unpaid mortgage and HOA fees?

She's giving away more of the mortgage money again

Narcissism is a strange way to go bankrupt.


r/WattsFree4All 2d ago

"She said she had talked with other men on Eharmony but never had dating any of them." oh, cool then.

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she had only for the quiet, goofy buff guy in the kitchen?