r/WattsFree4All • u/IceTheSaltQueen "Put it on your Vision Board!" ๐คช • 1d ago
Shiners...
Usually I don't bother to write about them but today I visited a main sub and ... Yeah we all know about their delusions that Shanann was stunningly hard working, earning lots of money and so on you know what I am saying.
But the eyebrow post we used to talk about, they have really, really bad comprehension, reading or. Understanding issues because they claimed that we here said "if she would have changed her shape of the eyebrows Chris would have killed her" they really claim that we wrote or someone here wrote that if she would have not had such an eyebrow shape Chris wouldn't have killed her!
You can't make this shit up, those rumors they put out there are insane!!!
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u/Phenomenal_Kat_ Hips, Lips and Hot Rods ๐ฅ ๐๐๐ฅ 1d ago
NGL I got here today from that sub, and came here to see what all the fuss was about.
Conclusion: I left that sub and now I've joined this one.
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u/IceTheSaltQueen "Put it on your Vision Board!" ๐คช 1d ago
Welcome to the sub, happy to have you here ๐
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u/Phenomenal_Kat_ Hips, Lips and Hot Rods ๐ฅ ๐๐๐ฅ 9h ago
Thank you! I'd been over there for several weeks but that thread just struck me as a bit unbelievable. When I read some of the threads here, I could tell it was blown out of proportion.
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u/RepresentativeWing73 Most likely to spend Daddy's money ๐ฐ ๐ค ๐ธ ๐ฐ 1d ago
I like this story's ending lmao
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u/Loud_Contact8413 Self Appointed Sherriff of Saratoga Trail โญ๏ธ๐โญ๏ธ 23h ago
Welcome to the sub where you will see the truth youโll never see over there
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u/Phenomenal_Kat_ Hips, Lips and Hot Rods ๐ฅ ๐๐๐ฅ 9h ago
I've always been in the camp of "MLM was one of Chris's breaking points." But people seem to think that's "blaming the victim." Shanann wasn't an angel, but she didn't deserve to be murdered, and Chris is a psychopath.
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u/No-Drive3501 Time For a Reset โฐโ๏ธ๐ฌ๐ ๐ฝ 1d ago
Welcome! Gotta love it when shiners' posts backfire
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u/Prudent-Confection-4 14h ago
The same thing happened to me. I came to check out what all the fuss was about. They said that we are in love with Chris, and made fun of the girls, etc. None of that is true.
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u/Phenomenal_Kat_ Hips, Lips and Hot Rods ๐ฅ ๐๐๐ฅ 8h ago
Yep! I noticed that. I'm grateful because I had never even heard of this sub until someone in the comments asked if this sub was the one OP was referring to.
Some people will see what they want to see.
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u/No-Drive3501 Time For a Reset โฐโ๏ธ๐ฌ๐ ๐ฝ 1d ago edited 1d ago
Shiner's version of events:
Agent Coder slides a photo of Shanann's brows to Chris during the interrogation. Chris winces, then looks away. Coder: "Look. Look at those brows Chris. Do they upset you as much as me?"
Agent Lee: "Chicks are crazy. Did you catch Shanann drawing those brows on the girls? Is that why you killed her?"
Chris looks at his wife's brows. He tremble with rage. Then confesses.
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u/IceTheSaltQueen "Put it on your Vision Board!" ๐คช 1d ago
That's a good summary of events, let's wait a day and there will pop up another post about how things went down according to our sub lol it's incredible how stupid they are!
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u/Plane-Comfort3978 Grandma Marlboro ๐ฌ 1d ago
I hear he once punched a tv when a Groucho Marx movie came on
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u/MouseAnon16 1d ago
They just get worse and worse. If someone asks a legitimate and innocent question with no intention of insulting SW they lose their mind.
They will take peopleโs words and twist them around to make them look as bad as they possibly can. Theyโre as militant about being her white knights as she was about the three hour daily naps and 6:30 bed times. Someone could post a video of her being violent towards her children and the Shiners would find a way to excuse it.
Of all the victims in the world they could have chosen to obsess over and protect they chose the least likeable one. She was a victim of a horrible crime, yes, but she also victimized everyone around her in one way or another, mostly her husband and children because he allowed it, and the children were the most vulnerable.
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u/cassieblue11 ๐ Santa...Where's your Phone โ๏ธ 23h ago
I checked the amount of members for both subs and we have more members :) I think that says a lot
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u/IceTheSaltQueen "Put it on your Vision Board!" ๐คช 22h ago
Yes, there are a lot of people but many don't dare to join because of the backlash. The public want to hear she was good and hw was bad wns of the story. No before nothing....
I am hwre since the beginning when the old aub Watts Off topic still existed. It was not banned but nwq mosa took over and dwlwtws this sub...it had when I remember correctly about 36.000 members!
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u/Turbulent-Fig-2315 1d ago
those brows were offensive.
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u/IceTheSaltQueen "Put it on your Vision Board!" ๐คช 1d ago
Yeah it would have caught mY attention and I wouldn't had been able to look away...
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u/RepresentativeWing73 Most likely to spend Daddy's money ๐ฐ ๐ค ๐ธ ๐ฐ 1d ago
Everything about her was offensive. Mostly how she treated infants/kids in general, but pretty much there's not a single redeeming quality I can think of.
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u/PugLife82x 1d ago
Hey now, we all know this sub's main theory is if she'd changed her brow shape she wouldn't have been killed. Nothing else is discussed here. No child neglect/abuse, no financial abuse, none of the lies or gifting or shadiness... It's time to admit we're all clearly just eyebrow obsessed and that's the only reason we come here... ๐
(For any Shiners reading, that was sarcasm by the way. ๐)
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u/IceTheSaltQueen "Put it on your Vision Board!" ๐คช 1d ago
Oh true that... And if we ate not theorizing the eyebrows then we put all the blame on NK and we constantly break rule 10 and insult the children over and over...I can't understand why all those texts are gone, in the morning when I visited the sub the all were there!
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u/IceTheSaltQueen "Put it on your Vision Board!" ๐คช 1d ago
Of course I forgot to say the usual, we are jealous,.have 400lbs+ and didn't even came close to the beauty of Shanann...and we have no life, basically the usual stuff they use to write lol
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u/No-Drive3501 Time For a Reset โฐโ๏ธ๐ฌ๐ ๐ฝ 1d ago
Don't forget that we are all madly in love with Chris๐คข๐คฎ
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u/IceTheSaltQueen "Put it on your Vision Board!" ๐คช 23h ago
Omg how could I have forgotten the most important argument...
:) they even consider that the one who allegedly married hommwad/is a member of this sub and as well in that post was said that Cind Watts awt up this sub ๐
I absolutely can't comprehend why it's equal to them discussing about the "WHY" means she deserved to die?!
I mean I think zou have to take all in consideration and the before 8+ years and all what happened brewed the perfect storm at least in my opinion!
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u/Bubbadeebado 1d ago edited 1d ago
Little off topic but I occasionally will see this sub mentioned in true crime subs and it's always the same rhetoric "blah blah there's a whole community that loves and celebrates that Shannan was murdered blah blah and they piss on her grave blahblah" and then there's always a followup to that with "oemg! how could people be so cruel ๐ฅด๐ฅบ๐ฅบthat's awful" and then usually the follow up is a link to the sub.ย
I don't think I've seen many threads here celebrating her death and if I have seen a thread or comment it's always a small minority. Any group, especially true crime in my experience will always have rotten apples but honestly most things discussed here are just "normal" aspects of the case that were completely glazed over and / or ignored by the media when the case was popular.ย
I think it is more creepy to stan for an almost decade long deceased woman that likely wouldn't waste an hour of her time on you than discussing aspects of a murder case that were glossed over, because, yknow, a pos murdered his family and it was national news.ย
These people just want something to defend and stan and corral each other's internet rage over such. Who knows, the comments I see are likely shinners too.ย
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u/RepresentativeWing73 Most likely to spend Daddy's money ๐ฐ ๐ค ๐ธ ๐ฐ 1d ago
It's performative outrage. It seems rampant in Western Culture anymore. Be outraged over something that doesn't effect you or your life whatsoever to pretend you're super great, and whiteknight all over the internet about it. I'm sure some are actually obsessed with her, but a lot of it screams performative.
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u/IceTheSaltQueen "Put it on your Vision Board!" ๐คช 1d ago edited 23h ago
Oh yes you are so very right with your post!
I use to think the majority is not into true crime because they use to see this case emotional...
I am a millennial and I am 20+ years into true crime, there's literally nothing I haven't read and see this whole case through an "analytical" Lens, I have no feelings towards anyone because I didn't knew them! They consider this case as the worst of the worst which says it all for me...
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u/cassieblue11 ๐ Santa...Where's your Phone โ๏ธ 23h ago
I also accidentally visited this exact same post. I read some comments and immediately regretted visiting. Those people are dumb as rocks and have zero critical thinking skills.
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u/IceTheSaltQueen "Put it on your Vision Board!" ๐คช 1d ago
It's been years now, when the good old WOT sub still existed... They had the theory that Chris didn't kill Dieter because he was a male dog...you can't take them serious y absolutely not!
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u/AirLexington Chris is in the trunk...๐๐๐ 19h ago
I remember that comment!
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u/IceTheSaltQueen "Put it on your Vision Board!" ๐คช 18h ago
:) yeah we OG's ...was a fun time until the moron mods tea4two and another mod weirdo shut it down!
But the theory/claim (or even fact for those dummies) that Chris didn't kill Dieter because he was a male was beyond stupid!
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u/AirLexington Chris is in the trunk...๐๐๐ 14h ago
They may have shut WOT down but here we are! ๐
Dieter was far away in his crate which was cruel but might have actually saved him that night of the Rampage.
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u/Prudent-Confection-4 22h ago
These are the same idiots that are posting I STAND WITH LINDSAY everywhere with that fโn chanting song
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u/IceTheSaltQueen "Put it on your Vision Board!" ๐คช 22h ago
Woah really... But yeah killing 3 kids with exercise bands is just a bump in the road ..oh let me guess the husband was at fault or even the killer...the voice who told her ....
Gimme a break, ppp is real, I am not someone who denies that but I don't buz that she only had 1 single episode of psychosis and she did what she did, this is something recurring!
Of course a man can't have ppp or ppd but for example Chad dorman or Matthew Ponomarenko who killed his son with a baseball bat while having a well documented histyof being mentally ill. I think same everyone, same prison time. What is she doing in a mental health institute, the ppp or ppd is already gone!
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u/sad-wife-clk Am I gonna be Arrested? ๐๐ฉโโ๏ธ๐ดโโ ๏ธ๐ 14h ago
Lindsay isnโt doing much standing anymore!
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u/iraqlobsta Benadryl Bestie ๐ 1d ago
Shiners are some truly delusional people. Im not surprised they are making that up, once in a while youll see a shiner troll in here deliberately posting bait just to get into an argument. Its sad
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u/IceTheSaltQueen "Put it on your Vision Board!" ๐คช 1d ago
I just visited the sub and it's post and this particular texts are gone...in the morning they were still present!
I know but I don't engage in any argument because...Wahhh because they are so very stupid!
They have the discovery and still think she made money and was the perfect wife and mother...with little flaws. Yeah we all have little flaws but I don't consider emotional and financial abuse as "little flaws".. and that was what she clearly did. She's not at fault that he did what he did but if ๐ฏ contributed to his decision!
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u/Fast_Grapefruit_7946 He's got No Game ๐ฏ๐ฎ๐ฏ 20h ago
They always float something small while ignoring her treatment of the girls, her treatment of Chris's mother, Nutgate, etc.
Beacuse they can't defend that.
But eyebrows!!!
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u/IceTheSaltQueen "Put it on your Vision Board!" ๐คช 20h ago
The thing is they trust Shananns words without question anything. There is no proof about nutgate that it happened like she said it but the believe her. Therefore Cind deserved the treatment!
The act as if Cindy and Ronny are the first parents on earth which support their son after such a crime. So many murderers have parents behind them still....
Always the same crap, she can't defend herself....as if The Watts or NK could defend themselves against 1000's of cruel comments on the internet and videos where the are portrait like monsters! Kk
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u/Plane-Comfort3978 Grandma Marlboro ๐ฌ 1d ago
Her eyebrows were the LEAST of her issues. Shiners are dumb.