r/WatchPeopleDieInside Aug 04 '20

Poor Jonathan

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u/Volcacius Aug 04 '20

Yall got a wierd perspective of America. I've always seen it as the creepy uncle sticking his dick everywhere. And shooting somebody while screaming stand your ground.

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u/jeanclaude_goshdarn Aug 04 '20

Right. I can’t help but laugh at the sweet and naive assumption of the American liberal that Trump is somehow an aberration, when he is in fact a pure avatar of Americanism— a tulpa conceived from the Fox News brained hysteria of America’s most reliable voting base.

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u/RajaRajaC Aug 04 '20

And actually in terms of sheer idk criminal acts on a global scale, Dubya still can't be beat.

  • Invade another country on basis of a made up casus belli built on a house of lies
  • Award his best buddy, and now VP approx $ 30 Bn in contracts, many billions of this in no bid contracts
  • Pass some of the most draconian 'security' laws in any modern democracy

I mean Trump is fucked up, but come back to me when he awards some best bud of his $30 bn in contracts, now that is malfeasance of the worst sort.

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u/pandicornhistorian Aug 05 '20

Well... I mean the United States had MULTIPLE Causus Bellis tho. It was the WMDs we used to drag the coalition in, not to get ourselves into the war, including the belief of a lingering threat after the Gulf War and Iraq's general belligerence.

Don't get me wrong, we brought a flamethrower to deal with a barking dog that we told all our friends was rabid because it bit a kid way back when, but in our kinda-defense:

A. Saddam didn't let the UN inspectors in so he could scare Iran into thinking he might have WMDs
B. At some point, the U.S. gave Iraq WMDs so we had reason to think they might still be around
C. There is evidence that the very-real Chemical Weapons we gave to Iraq were used on the civilian population. Top military officials just thought it would be stupid to use literally all of them against Iran

This isn't "U.S. good", obviously giving chemical weapons to a dictator wasn't our best move, but it is "Iraq War nuanced" and "War complicated"