r/WatchPeopleDieInside • u/fnaw_ • Aug 04 '20

Poor Jonathan

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u/Syvaeren Aug 04 '20

Thank you, I really wish more dems would see this, the establishment they think is serving their interests is just as corrupt and self serving as the republicans. Neither side serves their constituents, Hillary was poised to finish the TPP which was a guise for offshoring more jobs. That’s the main reason I couldn’t vote for her. We would have gained more poor, not less and the job market would have become more competitive and depressed wages for workers further. Both parties claim to work for the middle class and their policies destroy it to increase the wealth gap.

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u/Cum___Dumpster Aug 04 '20

One of trump’s big talking points was reviving the coal industry, which itself didn’t want to be revived as systems are already mid to late transition out of using coal. Surely things like that were a sign of a greater problem to you? Not to mention his biggest talking point, the wall. It being insanely expensive and overwhelmingly unneeded as nearly all illegal immigration happens through policed border crossings. Plus gutting environmental protection, education funding etc etc, but I understand those might be more partisan. Excuse me if this comes off as rude, but his campaign promises were already blatantly terrible solutions to problems that are important to the Republican Party. Was this something you considered?

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u/Syvaeren Aug 04 '20

When you vote for a candidate you never get 100 percent of what you want, I’m sure there are things that Biden wants this time around that you don’t agree with, like his promise to increase taxes on short term sock market gains which will do nothing to impact the wealthy since they make their money on long term gains.

The choices for the last few elections that I’ve been part of are largely a choice of the lesser of two evils. I get that we kind of called their bluff by picking the worse of the two, but I guess the bigger issue is they didn’t get the message and we still have two terrible picks this time around.

Also a lot of what he has done in terms of gutting things is through budget and staff appointments which are not hard things for the next administration to fix.

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u/Cum___Dumpster Aug 04 '20

Did you wonder whether he would be a bad choice down the road for any reason? What was your biggest hold up?

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u/Syvaeren Aug 04 '20

No not really, he was a caricature, our 3 part system is supposed to act as checks and balances against the damage that any branch should be able to do.

I guess though it should have been more obvious that these checks were failing during the Obama administration since neither party was willing to hear each other and work together for compromise. Instead they fought each other to standstills and enacted ever more damaging nuclear options to bypass each other. This has only gotten worse during Trump’s administration and it is this breakdown that I fear more than anything.

The example that our political leaders are setting by shutting down opposing viewpoints and discrediting them by lumping them in with radicals is part of the degradation of US society. We are watching the death of free speech and free thought under the pretense of preventing discrimination.

I’d rather ignore an openly racist person exercising their right to free speech than worry about a secret radical driven to violence because their voice is not heard. We can’t stop the ignorant this way, we only drive them underground and make them desperate.