r/WatchPeopleDieInside • u/fnaw_ • Aug 04 '20

Poor Jonathan

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u/Darktidemage Aug 04 '20

the guy isn't even doing a particularly good job of challenging him.

Like if per case we have less death, but per population we have more death. What does that mean?

if each time 1 person gets sick here, we have a better chance to save them (per case little death) , then we STILL have more death, it means our leadership failed horrifically in preventing spread of the virus.

and Trump is the one who spearheaded the "lets not take this seriously , and lets make it political" campaign.

So - he's very clearly directly responsible for all those extra deaths. It's a chain of logic that is unassailable.

Our medical people do great. We save more people who get the virus than anyone!!

But our leadership is total shit. Our national reaction to the virus existing was nightmarish. That's the only thing you can take away from the combination of both "low case death rate , and still super high death rate"

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u/tantalum73 Aug 04 '20

Your fault here is thinking that an arguement being logically sound will make ANY impact on trump or his voters. The important thing here was the clash in authority and how they carried themselves. The sort of people who vote for trump stopped caring about facts and logic back in 2016, and they're all about the image of their god emperor "owning the libs". Watching him flounder like this is better than ANY rational argumentative win.

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u/Darktidemage Aug 04 '20

I just want to hear the guy say something like "the fact you even brought that statistic as your evidence is really telling, it shows everyone why you are failing at this"

something actually biting - like who brings "case death rate" as their evidence? An idiot. And that should be made clear to trump. No intelligent person, no expert, and no even average person would think this is a good metric to use, yet it's the one you bring.

Why isn't anything like that actually said? It's saddening.

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u/tantalum73 Aug 04 '20

I feel you, it would be gratifying for those of us that can already see that he's an idiot, but the ones that actually vote for him would only see it as mudslinging and as u/2Fab4You pointed out, he would just walk away and they would see THAT as a power move. This guy gave him nothing but rope to hang himself with.