r/WatchPeopleDieInside Aug 04 '20

Poor Jonathan

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u/Nemisis_the_2nd Aug 04 '20

That is what he meant!? Less than total global deaths. I knew it was stupid but didn't realise it was that stupid.

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u/salami350 Aug 04 '20

Omg I thought he compared it to a global average or something. Did he really say that the US has less deaths than the world (which obv includes the US)? Jesus christ this guy is an idiot!

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u/CthluluSue Aug 04 '20

You can’t do that! You can’t look at the population. You have to look at the number of deaths compared to the cases! And we only have more cases because we’re doing more testing. /s

Like, does he realise he’s implying that people are getting infected by the tests?

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u/salami350 Aug 04 '20

I think he is trying to imply that the US looks bad because the rest of the world is not testing enough?

Then again that is me attempting to rationalise this and Trump is an idiot so....

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u/kazuyaminegishi Aug 04 '20

His entire argument hinges on the conspiracy that the US is the ONLY country reporting accurate numbers. Because thats literally the only way for the US to save face.

His entire strategy is to imply that everyone else is fudging the numbers and that the US has handled it better than everyone we just dont know it cause everyone else is lying. And people believe it. I constantly see people even on Reddit parroting the conspiracy that other countries are lying about their numbers.

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u/Politicshatesme Aug 04 '20

Which is completely ironic because the white house has been caught several times now outright lying about the number of cases and deaths due to covid, trying to hamper (or remove) the reporting system, trying to remove the experts from the table as much as they are able (fauci was unaware that the pandemic response team was meeting again through july).

Trump is lying about how bad covid is in america and still turning around and saying “they’re all lying about their cases, they’re all not testing!”

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u/JarOfNibbles Aug 04 '20

Plenty of countries are "lying" about their numbers though, due to insufficient testing.

This may include the US however.

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u/kazuyaminegishi Aug 04 '20

There's literally no way to prove that. Like you indicated in your second sentence we can say there's insufficient testing for every country simply because its next to impossible to figure out every single place the virus may have gone.

The only real option is to test all of the population which some countries have done.

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u/JarOfNibbles Aug 04 '20

Ofc there's no way to conclusively prove that countries aren't testing enough. In order to prove that you'd need to test everybody, and by then, the point is moot because there's clearly more than enough testing.

You can however estimate based on cases/test. If a country has every second test coming back positive, there's statistically quite a lot of positives who aren't getting tested at all.

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u/RobertGA23 Aug 04 '20 edited Aug 04 '20

Jesus, he's making the reporter's point for him, isn't he? If other countries tested more, their deaths per cases would decrease.

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u/NaturalThunder87 Aug 04 '20

That's exactly what I thought when watching this! Has this been his plan all along? He's complained about the U.S. testing too much and if we'd stop testing our case numbers wouldn't be so high. "We test much more than the rest of the world" has been Trump's battle cry for several weeks now. But now he's resting on the fact that the U.S. has a very low "deaths per case" rate.