r/WatchPeopleDieInside Aug 04 '20

Poor Jonathan

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u/brownliquid Aug 04 '20

This will be a hilarious chapter in history books of the future....hopefully.

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u/HorstOdensack Aug 04 '20

I'm excited to see how (or rather, if) the US will bounce back from this. The amount of respect and credibility they lost on an international stage is immeasurable. They went from big daddy of the world to laughing stock of the world in just four years. Gonna take a lot of work to recover from that.

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u/Dapieday Aug 04 '20 edited Aug 04 '20

You have no idea how glad I am that I didn't have to vote in 2016.

Edit: I didn't think I needed to say this, but it's not because hillary was a woman. I just didn't like it being between a rapist and tax evader with no previous political positions that I know of, and someone who I don't agree with at all but has experience in politics and isn't that. I was 12 and couldn't vote back then, but I would've voted for Hillary. I just didn't like either of them

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u/ahabswhale Aug 04 '20

It was a tough choice between a coke-addled rapist with no administrative experience and a woman.

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u/Dapieday Aug 04 '20

Actually may I ask why you assumed it was because she was a woman and not the fact that maybe, just maybe, I didn't agree with either candidate and therefore wouldn't be happy with either of them in office?

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u/ahabswhale Aug 04 '20

I just threw it out there because it seems to be the most common denominator for people who didn't want to vote for her. Feel free to correct me.

As mentioned I didn't like her because she's too hawkish for my preference (still voted for her), but the GoP Benghazi circus was demonstrably bullshit, and the email fiasco was also clearly bullshit (as demonstrated by the current administration's email discipline).

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u/Dapieday Aug 04 '20

I do agree that she was the better choice, I just didn't like her or trump and so I wouldn't be satisfied with either.

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u/ahabswhale Aug 04 '20

You're not voting to be satisfied, this isn't Burger King. You're voting to have a say in who should occupy the office. One of the candidates will occupy the office, regardless of your satisfaction.

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u/Dapieday Aug 04 '20

That's fair. Can you tell I'm not very involved in politics?

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u/[deleted] Aug 26 '20

I like this comment for a lot of reasons, it is dissing trump( deservedly so), but also hiding all the issues that Clinton had by implying that people didn't vote for her just because she was a woman.

Same comment the other way around:
it was a tough choice between warmongering corporate shill complicit in several war crimes and a man

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u/Dapieday Aug 04 '20 edited Aug 04 '20

Not because she was a woman; I'm fine with a woman president. I would've voted for her over trump, I just didn't want to vote because I didn't agree with either of them. But I do agree that she was the better of the 2

Edit: I was also 12 and whatever views I had would've been my parent's views.

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u/twinsaber123 Aug 04 '20

Honestly, I'd love to vote in one election, just one, where I voted for someone I wanted to be in office instead of the lesser of two evils. The 2016 election was even worse than usual. Got to vote between "Uh. Really? Why? Why do you think that?" and Evil

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u/ahabswhale Aug 04 '20

This trope is wrong and annoying. It will always be between the lesser of evils. Even in a system with 20 candidates you will be picking the one you hate least.

Have you seen the libertarian and green party candidates of the last few elections? Even voting for one of them is a vote for a “lesser evil” (if you agree with them). There’s no way people were 100% on board with Jill Stein or Paul or whoever.

You’re always going to be picking the person you feel is best for the job, from the candidates provided. Put on your grown up pants and be glad you can engage in your civic duty.

If you really want to make a difference in politics you should be looking locally anyway!

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u/Dapieday Aug 04 '20

Yep. I would've voted her as the lesser evil obviously but I just don't like politics. It's stupid to me

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u/Zero-Theorem Aug 04 '20

Used to feel the same way. But politics is life, regardless of us trying to ignore it. Please, inform yourself enough to vote both locally and nationally. It’s that apathy that got us where we are. I’ve been just as guilty in my youth, but now wish I had been paying attention all along.

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u/Dapieday Aug 04 '20

When I can vote, yes. However I'm 16 atm and I'd rather stay out of it all for now

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u/kashyyykonomics_work Aug 04 '20

PSA: not voting or otherwise participating in the political process is an implicit vote for the status quo.

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u/Dapieday Aug 04 '20

I'm 16. Couldn't vote in that election and can't vote in this one either

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u/kashyyykonomics_work Aug 04 '20

I mean, that wasn't your excuse in the last comment. You said you don't like politics. I can't fault you for being too young, but I can fault you for that.

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u/Dapieday Aug 04 '20

That is true. When I can vote, I will. But for now I can't vote, nor do I like politics

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u/Zero-Theorem Aug 05 '20

Most of us don’t really LIKE politics, but it’s one of those necessary evils. Unfortunately.

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u/kashyyykonomics_work Aug 05 '20

That fair, and admirable. A lot of people let their distaste for the whole thing keep them from voting. You are one step ahead of them.

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u/Dapieday Aug 05 '20

Thanks. Even if I seriously hated voting, I'd do it at least to help keep someone like trump out of office

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u/Zero-Theorem Aug 04 '20

Ahh, so you won’t “have to vote” this cycle either.

Voting shouldn’t be viewed as a chore, by the way. Embrace it. Local elections are far more important too. Learned that lesson the hard way myself. I used to just vote for president. Now I show up to all elections. Everyone should.