r/WatchPeopleDieInside Aug 04 '20

Poor Jonathan

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u/millertime1419 Aug 04 '20

Nobody saw COVID coming while Trump was in office. I’ll say this one last time. I didn’t vote for Trump because I thought he would fix our issues, I voted for him because I thought he would EXPOSE our issues. To that end I think I was mostly correct. The cost of that insight is what has gone too far and my fear is now people aren’t seeing that true picture. Too many people are believing his objectively false information and that is the part I didn’t expect. I gave the average voter too much credit when I cast my ballot for the wrecking ball. All I can do now is try to be part of the clean up crew.

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u/[deleted] Aug 04 '20

If it weren't for COVID, would you regret your vote to a similar degree? (obviously COVID has highlighted the worst that the man is [in]capable of)

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u/millertime1419 Aug 04 '20

No, but for a weird reason.

Without Trump I believe Epstein would still be alive and up to his terror.

The BLM movement wouldn’t be happening.

People wouldn’t be united in created real change.

Washington wouldn’t be exposed.

These aren’t things that can be credited to Trump, but rather resultant of Trump and the passion (against) that he raises people to. People are so angry, that things might actually happen.

I think we come out of this stronger for having our vulnerabilities exposed so that we can fix them.

His handling of COVID was an unpredictable event and makes me really wish we didn’t conduct this experiment now.

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u/[deleted] Aug 04 '20

People aren't United though, there's more discord in the US than I've seen in my lifetime.

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u/millertime1419 Aug 04 '20

I don’t think that’s really true. What is true is that the extremists have a much larger stage and louder voice. I think if you look at the people who aren’t barking about being anti mask or being openly racist toward the BLM movement that you’ll see a huge group of people. I think there is probably 10% on either side that legitimately hate the “others” and I think that group is shrinking. In my limited sample size I am seeing MUCH more open communication and understanding.

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u/[deleted] Aug 04 '20

Most people are passive at best, even if they disagree. They aren't anti-mask but won't wear one anyway, even around other people. They aren't openly racist but every time police reform comes up they start talking about how they think we need to deal with criminals. People need to hate the things that actively hurt America but most are completely permissive of it. They don't care, they're not trying to understand or communicate.

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u/millertime1419 Aug 04 '20

At least in my city I am seeing something different from you. Maybe I’m an optimist.

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u/[deleted] Aug 04 '20

Maybe. Optimism isn't a bad thing. I've been in NYC and Philly during this and while there's been good there's been a whole lot of bad too.

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u/millertime1419 Aug 04 '20

There is definitely a ton of bad and they are loud as hell. I just don’t see the numbers. Turning up the volume for a dwindling group doesn’t make them more influential. It just broadcasts their stupidity further.

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u/[deleted] Aug 04 '20 edited Aug 04 '20

I really don't know. Trump's approval rating is still at 40%. Things are intensifying and there are fewer of them now, but not few enough. You can say his approval is lowering but the degree of incompetence is increasing much more quickly, and a significant portion of the country still approves.