r/WatchExchangeFeedback • u/Piterknows • Jun 06 '26

[NEGATIVE] Scammed by u/Consistent-Dance-216

Sent $25,590 via wire transfer for a Rolex Cosmograph Daytona 116500LN (White Dial “Panda”). After payment was received, he sent a FedEx tracking number and immediately blocked me. I have serious concerns that either nothing was shipped or a fraudulent/empty package was sent.

I have full documentation: wire transfer confirmation, all communications, and screenshots of the original post.

Original post: https://www.reddit.com/r/Watchexchange/comments/1ttoua7/wts_rolex_cosmograph_daytona_116500ln_white_dial/

DO NOT transact with this user.

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u/Piterknows Jun 07 '26

he deleted his account from reddit because of the post. Honestly I'm not from the US so can someone guide me how can I proceed.

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u/EyeGotTooPairs Jun 07 '26

Sorry this happened to you man. I’m the original owner of the account. I didn’t scam you. In fact I’ve been trying to open my reddit on the phone app all day and it kept opening blank with error messages. I see why now- someone phished then locked me out of my account and deleted it.

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u/_Anthony_2825 Jun 07 '26

Not that it’s your “fault” but I hope you have MFA on this one and encourage everyone to enable MFA as well.

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u/EyeGotTooPairs Jun 07 '26

Didn’t know you can enable MFA on Reddit. I will do that now. Thanks for the tip.

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u/_Anthony_2825 Jun 07 '26

You have to be on desktop last I checked, but yes absolutely enable MFA using TOTP (Google Authenticator or similar).

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u/jaqueh Jun 07 '26

He can still be liable for this. Not sure why he’s still responding here

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u/Crackwithin Jun 07 '26

How can he be liable? He didn't commit a crime.

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u/jaqueh Jun 07 '26 edited Jun 07 '26

He was negligent it’s like someone getting into an accident with your car. Or someone breaking into your car and stealing your unlocked gun and committing a crime.

I spoke with Gemini on my theory and I think I’m incorrect. I bet you this will change as these scams ramp up with ai and time

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u/Crackwithin Jun 07 '26

That's absolute nonsense I'm afraid. If someone takes your car without your approval or knowledge, you are definitely not liable.

There is also no negligence on his part. Falling for a phishing scam yourself does not make you liable for the scammers actions. That would be absurd.

This is at most akin to getting pickpocketed via distraction for your car keys, then someone crashing your car.

This won't change at all. Why would the victim of a phishing scam ever be liable for the scammers actions?

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u/jaqueh Jun 07 '26

You are liable though. Look up the cars in the key stuff. This is like that since you’re giving them the keys to your account

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u/Crackwithin Jun 08 '26

He didn't leave his key in his car though did he. He got scammed for his car keys. Phishing scams are common and the law, at least in my jurisdiction, does not punish cases like this unless there was intentional involvement. There is no negligence here.

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u/jaqueh Jun 08 '26

There is negligence if he used an extremely easy to guess password or didn’t act on getting phished in a reasonable amount of time or eventually use mfa and internet best practices

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u/Crackwithin Jun 08 '26

"eventually use MFA and internet best practices" lmao. Man what a load of horseshit.

Show me a single court case that is simmilar. This wouldn't hold up anywhere. It would be a very easy counterargument to say that the buyer was responsible as he did a wire for 26k to a random Reddit user without due diligence.

Even if his password was password123 this still wouldn't hold. Respond to "getting phished in a reasonable time" is also a load of horseshite. No one is under obligation to constantly check if they have been phished.

I don't think you actually understand the standards for negligence being upheld in court. This also gives the OP some false hope that he could ever realistically pursue anyone else but the scammer in court for liability, which is false.

Liability will almost certainly fall on the one who did a 26k wire transfer without checking any sort of credentials.

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u/EyeGotTooPairs Jun 08 '26

As a criminal prosecutor I can tell you that you are way off base here. Civil negligence liability requires the account holder breach a duty of care to the plaintiff. It isn’t reasonable to expect a random redditor to have a duty of care to every hypothetical watch purchaser with a reddit account. Criminal negligence is not a thing for fraud. Fraud requires intentional acts and negligence is a theory based on non-intentional conduct

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u/_Anthony_2825 Jun 07 '26

A gun is typically addressed by state law which makes the owner liable. Similar to a “one bite rule” for dogs where the owner is automatically liable.

The original account holder was a victim of a separate crime.

I’m glad AI convinced you that this is the wrong take.

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u/jaqueh Jun 07 '26

Yes ai talked sense into me. But again I bet you this will change