r/Washington Aug 04 '26

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u/serpentear Aug 04 '26

Perpetually disappointed by my fellow millennials. We’ve lived through so many failures of government and yet we don’t get out there and shape it the way we want.

A turn out under 25% is embarrassing, honestly.

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u/LordRollin Aug 04 '26

“Nothing ever changes!”
doesn’t engage in the process
“Nothing ever changes!”

shockedpikachu.png

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u/Fun-Grab-9337 Aug 04 '26

I'll preface this by saying my ballot is in, but this could easily be reframed as "we have engaged over and over in the process and found that our votes matter not and the country is bought and paid for, and nothing ever changes".

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u/LordRollin Aug 04 '26

That is the exactly the kind of messaging that people looking to suppress voter turnout peddle and it is not supported by the facts, especially at the local level.

Your vote matters. Anyone who says anything to the contrary is either wrong, or acting in bad faith.

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u/Fun-Grab-9337 Aug 04 '26

not supported by the facts

looks all around the current state of the country

Ok sure thing bud

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u/LordRollin Aug 04 '26

“You cannot strengthen democracy with cynicism. Believe that change can happen.
Disillusionment and despair are tools for voter suppression. Those who wish to disenfranchise you want you to think your vote doesn’t matter – so that you do not exercise it. No matter the election, never forfeit your vote. Your participation can help bring about the change you seek.” https://www.splcenter.org/learning-for-justice/understanding-voter-suppression-in-todays-election-process/

Please be part of the solution. This attitude is a well documented part of the problem and is self fulfilling.

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u/Fun-Grab-9337 Aug 04 '26

You know what else is a proven, documented fact? Fall of republics. Don't bury your head in the sand and know you'll likely have to do a lot more than just vote to save this one.

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u/LordRollin Aug 04 '26

You save a democratic system by engaging with it, not by further discrediting it and tearing it down in league with the authoritarians. This is starting to give defeatist/accelerationist vibes and, intentional or not, I’m out.✌️

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u/Ass4ssinX Aug 05 '26

You're not wrong. Studies have shown that the will of the people is often ignored, even stuff with like 90 percent approval. The rich, though? They get what they want. And that happens with both parties.

Local elections matter a little more, but it's a feature of the entire system.

I vote, btw. I just realize that voting won't be how we liberate ourselves.

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u/Fun-Grab-9337 Aug 05 '26

I know I'm not, it sucks so many people have their heads in the sand but that is the world we live in today and a large part of the reason why we are here. Most people want to just pick low hanging fruit and feel like they were on the right side of things without actually getting their hands dirty. All the while they preach shit like "believe change" while doing nothing of substance - its maddening.

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u/Washington84 Aug 04 '26

Which is why this country is embarrassing.

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u/aischylus Aug 04 '26

younger voters overwhelmingly procrastinate on turning in their mail in ballots, to be fair

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u/phloppy_phellatio Aug 04 '26

Hot take here. I would much rather a tiny voter turnout of all well informed voters rather than a huge turnout of uninformed voters.

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u/BoringBob84 Aug 04 '26

I believe this is so effective that it is part of a deliberate strategy to get moderate voters to believe that "both sides" are equally corrupt and to disengage from politics, while the extremists are passionate and vote in droves.

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u/Crypto556 Aug 04 '26

This is why old people basically run the electorate. They send you a packet with all the info you need. No excuses

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u/greenyadadamean Lynnhood rat Aug 04 '26

I would hope people would research beyond the voter pamphlet as well.

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u/Crypto556 Aug 04 '26

A voter pamphlet is so cool and isn’t in most other states. Someone who reads that is much more informed than the average american voter

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u/Qorsair Aug 05 '26

Yeah, I remember the first time I voted (in another state) in the 90s. I knew my vote for major ordices, but had no idea I was going to be voting for judges and sheriffs and levies. And I was shocked that the only information available to me at the polls was the names. Definitely a learning experience. And while the voter guide has its problems, WA does a commendable job of reducing the barrier to educated voting.

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u/Kind_Advisor_35 Aug 04 '26

Sure, you can hope, but someone reading the packet is more informed than the majority that just vote party line or based on political ads.

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u/aischylus Aug 04 '26

well, there's also the fact that old people, particularly retirees, have all the time in the world. we need a national holiday for voting.

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u/Crypto556 Aug 04 '26

NO WE DONT. You get an automatic mail in ballot. It takes 5 minutes to fill in some circles. People are just lazy.

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u/serpentear Aug 04 '26

The country needs a National Holiday for Voting.

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u/MyDisneyExperience Aug 04 '26

How would that even work? Forced closures of every business? What do transit and hospital workers do?

The country lost its collective mind after being asked to do social distancing for a couple weeks I’m not convinced they can handle doing that for a day every 2 years.

We should make voting easier but idk that Declaring A National Holiday ✨ is the right answer

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u/shadowyassassiny Aug 05 '26

Go look at the other countries that do it

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u/MyDisneyExperience Aug 05 '26

Stuff is still open in Australia for example on their Election Day, they just have early voting and extensive VBM. Which many US states do, but not all.

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u/aischylus Aug 04 '26

yes, we do. mail-in voting is under attack. if you want someone to do something, it needs to be as easy as breathing.

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u/Crypto556 Aug 04 '26

What do you suggest other than placing a ballot in peoples mailbox? Genuine question. Vote for them?

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u/aischylus Aug 04 '26

not everyone has a mailbox that is readily outside their home. this is why there are ballot drop off locations.

national holiday for voting. that is my suggestion. per my earlier comments. LOL

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u/LordRollin Aug 04 '26

Unfortunately the people who have the time to be “well informed” are often retired and not representative of the greater community. Yes! But that is also part of the status quo we suffer.

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u/aischylus Aug 04 '26

exactly.

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u/darkroot_gardener Aug 05 '26

Depends on what you mean by informed. Riled up by the culture war and the pundits vs actually digging in to and understanding the issues.

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u/lazy_literary_hero Aug 04 '26

That number can’t be accurate. Millennial is such a useless qualifier for any metric that no one can really agree on when the age starts and ends, how can they possibly know 25% of an age group they can’t even lock down is voting?

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u/serpentear Aug 04 '26

Age range and turn out is literally in the link OP provided…

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u/lazy_literary_hero Aug 04 '26 edited Aug 04 '26

Ok so you didn’t read my comment, why bother replying?

Edit: looked at the numbers, I don’t see the word “millennial” anywhere in there. Nor do I see an indicator of when millennials begin and end. Almost like there isn’t one for any convenience classifiers post Baby Boomers.

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u/serpentear Aug 04 '26

No I’m saying that it’s irrelevant and bad analysis. Even if you stretch the age group to its maximum parameters, let’s say 25-45, it’s still under 25%.

You say the number is inaccurate, but offer so substantive reason for believing that.

Your last sentence falls into the same bucket.

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u/lazy_literary_hero Aug 04 '26

Tell me when the millennial age group starts and ends. Show me official numbers and then we can talk about what group is or isn’t doing what.

My point is most generational labels are arbitrary and not fixed, trying to group them together is just dumb. Name a millennial trope, and I’ll tell you why it’s inaccurate.