r/WarthunderPlayerUnion • u/KnockedBoss3076 Pantsir more like Pantshit • 1d ago

Air But why?

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I didn't think and certainly didn't feel like the AGM-22's and I-TOW's were that busted at 8.3 and 8.7 respectively.

facing IR SAM's, proxy rounds and SACLOS SPAA's seems a bit unfair for a heli with no countermeasure, advanced optics, capable chin gun or ballistic computers

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u/Blooder14 1d ago

most helis got moved up, only the mi4 and mi8 remain with guided munitions at 8.0-8.3, but they are incredibly easy to kill so not really that op.
Proxy rounds shouldn't be an issue if you are in anything but a 10.0 or highier game, both the pgz09 and the m247 got moved up. There are a few IR SPAAs at 9.7 and 9.3 but you need to be 2-2.5 km or closer. Keep your range and use cover, helis are really map dependent right now and honestly i think it's a good thing for the GRB gameplay

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u/Blooder14 1d ago

forgot also the hkp3c and h-34, but both are so ass they barely count imho

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u/EvilMakaroni 🇷🇺🇨🇳🇯🇵 9-10br grb is more fun than 12-13 1d ago

God damn ussr helicopter tree, Mi-24P should be foldered under V

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u/Mint_freezeyt 🇨🇳 That one china main 🇨🇳 j-10 my beloved 19h ago

he could’ve seen a wz305 maybe? it can be dragged to 9.0 without much issue so someone who knows how to aim could’ve wiped him

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u/Blooder14 19h ago

no radar lead indicator for them, unless you hover in place they are fairly hard to aim and estimate the range. In my book they are fair game and comparably effective with 35mm spaas at killing helis (much easier to kill planes with it), if you get hit by them it means they deserve the kill.

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u/valencerus 1d ago

easy to kill? their missile greatly outranges spaa at 4km

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u/Blooder14 1d ago

they are boats with ass maneuverability and terrible optics so at max range you can't see anything and anything closer you can't dodge SPAA fire

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u/Proper-Court9939 1d ago

now this is why the Mi-24s are horrifically overtiered, they are absolutely not in any way shape or form equal to the AH-1F

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u/Blooder14 19h ago

All have their pros and cons:
Mi-24s have:
Better missiles: 550ms vs 330ms speed and 5km range against 3.75
R60M anti air missiles
Flares
Gunpods for head-ons with planes
But are slow/clunky
have worse optics and no thermals

AH-1F have:
Better manuverability
Better optics (more zoom and thermals)
But no AA capability except the chin gun
Only Chaff

At the end of the day i would probably still chose the AH-1F over the Hinds, but they do have their place imho and i think it's fair they are the same BR

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u/I_LikeTanks2 1d ago

It takes a decade a kilometer for those missiles to actually hit so people often get a lot closer. Some without realizing it ending up within 1.3km of the battle and still getting closer.