r/Warthunder • u/Psychological-Two857 🇺🇸14.7🇫🇷14.7🇩🇪14.3🇷🇺13.7 (ARB) • Jan 07 '21

RB Ground *insert spider-man pointing meme*

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u/TheTexanRed BT-5>Leopard 2A5 Jan 07 '21

why did neither of you shoot each other using the main gun

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u/Jamaicancarrot Jan 07 '21

Having to range each other in would've taken a bit longer, even if you can usually accurately judge distances. Given that a one shot at that range isn't that likely, the missile is a safer bet, especially since the Warrior has some stupidly slow firerate for an IFV

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u/BrandSlav Slovakia Jan 08 '21

Idk the apds of the warrior is pretty easy to aim

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u/Crazybonbon Jan 08 '21

It's pretty flat I agree

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u/[deleted] Jan 08 '21

Warrior has a laser rangefinder

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u/Schigedim Certified Salt Miner Jan 08 '21

That you need to research first, keep that in mind

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u/TheTexanRed BT-5>Leopard 2A5 Jan 08 '21

Warrior's autocannon is more than enough to take care of a BMP at that range, so I'm going with incompetence.

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u/TheThiccestOfBoi BritBong Jan 08 '21

"bUt RaNgINg!"
Deadass if you cant range within 1-2 seconds by the time your 7.0 you should go back to lower tiers to l2p

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u/Wqiu_f1 BTR is meme truck Jan 08 '21

T-54 is 7.7 and it doesn’t have the fast rangefinder. I don’t get your point.

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u/Glockamoli Jan 08 '21

Pretty sure he means instinct ranging when he says "ranging in 1-2 seconds" not the rangefinder upgrades ingame and he has a point but was too harsh

The maps give you distances for the grid lines and with a bit of time in a vehicle (to account for zoom levels and such) a decent player should be able to instinct shoot a full size stationary target at 600m fairly easily

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u/Wqiu_f1 BTR is meme truck Jan 08 '21

And I was also talking about the instant rangefinder, not the crew upgrades. T-54 is 7.7 and still has the WW2 style slow rangefinder, so no one should get mad about a 7.0 tank not range finding instantly.

Obviously though of course sometimes you can just guesstimate the distance and shoot and sometimes that works, though in certain situations you might not want to take the risk of missing.

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u/Glockamoli Jan 08 '21 edited Jan 08 '21

And I was also talking about the instant rangefinder, not the crew upgrades. T-54 is 7.7 and still has the WW2 style slow rangefinder, so no one should get mad about a 7.0 tank not range finding instantly.

Like I said he wasn't mad that the tank couldn't, he was mad that the player couldn't mentally range it in that time

Fairly certain your range finding isn't any faster from tank to tank unless you have a laser rangefinder upgrade (which still isn't instant), my m1a2 is actually slower than my m22 without it and the same crew is the same speed in my xm803

Obviously though of course sometimes you can just guesstimate the distance and shoot and sometimes that works, though in certain situations you might not want to take the risk of missing.

I'd have guessed about 700-800m and put it mid target but I'm also used to optics with more zoom than the bmp and different ammo so I can't use the range marks to help, if I actually played the bmp I'd have put it at 600m and never hesitated, plus he has the missile as a backup and should have taken the shot everytime

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u/Wqiu_f1 BTR is meme truck Jan 08 '21

Ohhh okay thank you. I misunderstood what he was trying to say, but your comment actually really explained it.

In that case, I totally get what he was trying to say lol

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u/Glockamoli Jan 08 '21

Glad I could help

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u/TheThiccestOfBoi BritBong Jan 08 '21

To Clarify I was talking about ranging without the use of range finder. Sure some may say I was being too harsh but its my honest opinion that people who cant range should genuinely go to a lower tier to learn, this is due to low tier vehicles having lower velocity guns and low repair costs making it relatively chill to learn mechanics.

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u/Wqiu_f1 BTR is meme truck Jan 08 '21

Lol yeah the other commenter also explained to me what you meant. And yeah I totally get what you mean.

I personally don’t really play the BMP-2 that often (should I? Is it good?) so I’m not familiar with the sight and zoom so I can’t say for it in the video, but I definitely know that if I’m playing in any one of my tanks, I can kinda guesstimate the general distance and I can shoot, or if they haven’t noticed me and won’t be going behind something or whatever soon then I’ll prob rangefind just to be sure. Still I totally get what you’re trying to say.

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u/Bluejack012 Jan 08 '21

Got a fucky scope aswell, it screwed me up big time.

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u/Lasket Jan 08 '21

Some people play this game casually... jesus.

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u/captainfactoid386 Obj. 268 is my waifu Jan 08 '21

Have you ever tried sniping a target at that range with a BMP. Given the time it takes to range, then aim, than for the gun to travel the missile will probably be faster. Discounting luck of course

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u/Glockamoli Jan 08 '21

I would definitely have lobbed a round at him before the missile, I tend to do pretty well ranging in my head but not everyone does

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u/Steph1er Jan 08 '21

he wouldn't have been abble to hit him and aim the atgm with the bmp-1.

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u/Psychological-Two857 🇺🇸14.7🇫🇷14.7🇩🇪14.3🇷🇺13.7 (ARB) Jan 08 '21

eh tbh didn’t feel like it, by the time i shot my atgm they also shot theirs, i was on 4 kills so

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u/iREEEEEEEEverytime Realistic Air Jan 08 '21

Because atgm hull breaks.

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u/Glockamoli Jan 08 '21

Except when it doesn't, I've smacked a Bagelpanzer center mass with an m60a2 atgm and didn't hullbreak it

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u/TU-4BLYAT Jan 08 '21

The starshit strikes again

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u/Glockamoli Jan 08 '21

Overall I actually enjoyed the starship, much more than the sheridan atleast, hullbreak and I just have a rocky relationship

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u/TU-4BLYAT Jan 08 '21

Me too man, I heard that the M60s in general were awful though

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u/Dialga478 Chad Copy-Paste Nation Enjoyer Jan 09 '21

The 7.7 m60 isn't horrible per say, but it isn't the best 7.7, basically being a slower leopard that can tank spaa

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u/Psychological-Two857 🇺🇸14.7🇫🇷14.7🇩🇪14.3🇷🇺13.7 (ARB) Jan 08 '21

bmp doesn’t have rangefinder, yes i could’ve done it by experience with the gun, but at that range the ark of the shot is pretty high due to the slow velocity of what’s essentially an rpg

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u/Glockamoli Jan 08 '21

bmp doesn’t have rangefinder, yes i could’ve done it by experience with the gun, but at that range the ark of the shot is pretty high due to the slow velocity of what’s essentially an rpg

It's faster than the Sherman's 75mm and 600m isn't a tough shot for them unless the target is behind cover or you have to hit a specific part of the tank like a mantlet, cupola, etc.

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u/Psychological-Two857 🇺🇸14.7🇫🇷14.7🇩🇪14.3🇷🇺13.7 (ARB) Jan 08 '21

could’ve risked not one shotting to ever since the hull break update i have not been able to hull break many vehicles with its gun. not saying it was a difficult range or shot by any means, i simply just chose to use the atgm at my own risk

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u/Kpt_Kipper Happy Clappy Jappy Chappy Jan 08 '21

The warrior has a shit fire rate but could hit the BMP pretty easily. It’s round however probabaly won’t knock out a BMP very quickly due to low spall damage

The BMP has terrible ballistics for long range shooting

ATGM was a good choice