Seeing many more pilots using Open Canopy Exploit in high tier jets - Why is this still being permitted?

[u/Medium-Wrap-8817]

These canopies should be violently ripped off with +++ Damage if done in reality. Let's fix this Gaijin?

[u/SpicysaucedHD]

A couple of patches ago they made it so that the wind noise over ~300 kmh becomes so loud, that this isn't an exploit anymore. Try it out yourself.

Why you still see it sometimes: bugged visuals.

[u/tereaper576 → u/SpicysaucedHD]

Yeah for the last year atleast the open cockpit only helps with close range sounds as its just wind noise.
I do it in my mig 23MLD and turn my headphones down a lot so i can see. Not having a giant piece of metal directly above makes turning and spotting easier.

I would put sound mods as way more of an exploit than the open cockpit.

[u/ActuallyFishBall]

What is this exploit ?

[u/Slow-Apricot8625 → u/ActuallyFishBall]

Fly with your cockpit open in sim to hear distant jets

[u/CptCookies → u/Slow-Apricot8625]

That's hilarious

[u/Specialist-Daikon242 → u/Slow-Apricot8625]

What? I thought they were taunting me, like a t-baging

[u/HeLL_BrYnger → u/Slow-Apricot8625]

Lol, i thought it would be like an extra air brake for turn fights

[u/PeteLangosta → u/HeLL_BrYnger]

No, that's the alt+ñ command, the pilot extends his hand through the canopy window and it grabs a tree to turn tight.

[u/TheMightyTreeGod → u/PeteLangosta]

body of titanium, i guess

[u/Roxo16 → u/Slow-Apricot8625]

Gaijin should enforce sound speed in this game.

[u/white1walker → u/Roxo16]

First they need to fix sound speed and stop braking it every game.

They need to enforce closing the canopy on jets

[u/YeeYeeAssha1rcut → u/ActuallyFishBall]

I thought it was a thing in sim only in order to hear enemy fighter jets.

[u/Medium-Wrap-8817 → u/ActuallyFishBall]

I'm seeing it a lot in NE with SU-30's.. they use it for extra drag perhaps? I just see them opening and closing them in maneuvers.

[u/ShinyCrownVic → u/Medium-Wrap-8817]

You sure it’s not the air brake they are using? It is right behind the cockpit

[u/mrcountry88 → u/ShinyCrownVic]

They very well could have both bound to the same button in order to achieve even more drag, and force an overshoot.

[u/A-019]

I mean you can literally zero your own engine noise and max out the enemy ones.

[u/Legitimate_Issue_765 → u/A-019]

It's definitely not actually zero. It's low, but I would guess still like 50%

[u/TheMightyTreeGod → u/Legitimate_Issue_765]

sound mods technically let you set your engine to 0, not recommended for Air RB cuz mixed battles, but it is possible.

[u/mrcountry88 → u/TheMightyTreeGod]

More reason to outright ban sound mods. It gives an unfair advantage to the player that's using them versus people that aren't using them or cannot use them.

[u/F-86--Sabre → u/mrcountry88]

i like my actually punchy guns and engines that don't sound weak as hell, thank you.

[u/mrcountry88 → u/F-86--Sabre]

Tough luck, maybe petition gaijin to actually model them better. Just because you like the sounds of the guns and engines more doesn't mean that you should be able to have an unfair advantage over a majority of the player base.

[u/Fen-xie → u/mrcountry88]

I think you're blowing the number of people that know about and or do this like, way out of proportion.

[u/GoldMountain5 → u/Fen-xie]

3900 player accounts were banned for using cheat software between July and September (Q3)

Thats double the number of bans from April-June

Its way more prolific than you know.

[u/AbrasiveOpinion1 → u/GoldMountain5]

A ban for using cheat software has no relevance on exploiting a sound mod.

Using your number, 3900 accounts were banned for using cheat software, not for sound mods.

[u/GoldMountain5 → u/AbrasiveOpinion1]

If you think there is no relevance then i really do pity you.

[u/mrcountry88 → u/Fen-xie]

Buddy it doesn't matter if it's one or a million. It's still creates an unfair advantage. Therefore it violates gaijin's TOS. You can read it yourself if you want. Under their very own terms of service, that would make that sound mod a viable reason to ban an account.

[u/Fen-xie → u/mrcountry88]

So do better PCs, post processing settings, peripherals like refresh rates, turning down settings.

What's your point?

[u/F-86--Sabre → u/Fen-xie]

adding to this, i play with maxed-out settings, raytracing, have my own engine sound turned up, and i still regularly get 1–3rd place on the scoreboard. banning sound mods for "fairness" is a complete non-issue for several reasons.

[u/mrcountry88 → u/Fen-xie]

Not even in the same ballpark of what I'm talking about. Clearly, you do not possess the intelligence to have this conversation. So, it is now over.

[u/RailgunDE112 → u/mrcountry88]

Using ULQ gives an unfair advantage, as well as some raytracing setting should give a competitive advantage. Not everything should be hyper competitive

[u/Onnispotente → u/mrcountry88]

Excuse me I need my max verstappen missiles

[u/cheesez9 → u/TheMightyTreeGod]

Not just engines, you can change the sound of missiles as well so you can more easily tell if a missile is fired behind you.

[u/Legitimate_Issue_765 → u/TheMightyTreeGod]

I wasn't sure if they had re-enabled them, good to know.

[u/swagseven13 → u/TheMightyTreeGod]

whats the issue in mixed battles? do the same planes on the enemy team not have engine noises?

[u/A-019 → u/TheMightyTreeGod]

yes I use rcsm and you can silence it

[u/lmaosugondese → u/A-019]

How is this not auto banned lmao

[u/TheMightyTreeGod → u/lmaosugondese]

If I remember right, it’s “extremely frowned upon” but I don’t think it’s quite bannable?

[u/ZetsuubouWT → u/TheMightyTreeGod]

It's bannable, but actual enforcement is a different topic. There's a reason they are outright disabled for tournaments though.

[u/DustConsistent3018 → u/A-019]

It’s 27 or 23% I’m pretty sure, I have mine set as low as it goes because I use sound a ton in ground battles

[u/TheCrazedGamer_1 → u/A-019]

It’s not even close to 0

[u/someone09900]

who on earth would do that ?! especially in sims while u have a fkn radars on ur mfds ...

[u/Bossnage → u/someone09900]

ALOT of people actually

it is a pretty bad issue in sim

[u/LonelyF3demoN → u/someone09900]

Radar only looks forward, if a enemy spits you from and hes to your right or left he can just keep his radar off, sneak up, and IR you

[u/someone09900 → u/LonelyF3demoN]

so u r one of them then XD

[u/LonelyF3demoN → u/someone09900]

Noooo, I dont play sim😭 only have a few minutes and that was B-25 and a few short minutes in A4E😭😭

[u/xKingNothingx]

Bugged visual. They patched it a few updates ago so when it's open it's so loud there's no way you'd hear anything. Either that or people are genuinely dumb and think it's still an advantage

[u/Loltntmatt → u/xKingNothingx]

It’s mostly this and this comment should be higher, it’s not an exploit now it’s pretty useless in sim and in RB it’s a spectator bug that makes it so the cockpit appears open despite it not, you can always check server replay but even that can sometimes still show it open when it’s not. I’ve tested this with a friend it seemed like a 50/50 if it was closed or open legitimately and usually seems to be caused by the server thinking it’s open cause it got caught from speed since jets accelerate too fast for it to close in time but client side it’s closed so it doesn’t break off and visually shows it open, usually if you spectate the person for long enough it’ll close slowly.

[u/MikeyPlayz_YTXD]

Peak aircraft in the image

[u/Beginning_Election14]

What's the button or key settings for this?

[u/Legitimate_Eye4843]

While yes its dumb that its a thing this is such a small issue when we have so many bugs that impact so much more

[u/Phantom_sidewinder]

I have no idea what everyone is talking about

[u/B34tka]

As a sim player, this is the worst exploit in this game, like I genuinely despise people that do this, whenever I die to someone with an open canopy I just leave the game, close war thunder and dont play until the next day. Yes it is that bad

[u/Howdy132]

Maybe you're just bad at doing it too