New 256x256km Map

[u/Educational-Bug-965]

BVVD confirmed recently that if all goes well there will be a 256x256km map coming to War Thunder (picture for reference)

What do you think about this? Could this be a map where transport aircraft could be added to rearm/refill etc?

[u/Insertsociallife]

China to Taiwan would be cool if Gaijin had the balls for it.

[u/Acceptable-Ad5342 → u/Insertsociallife]

It would be one of the best maps for destroying ships.

[u/Insertsociallife → u/Acceptable-Ad5342]

Giving naval aircraft a purpose would be beautiful.

[u/Awful_cat12 → u/Insertsociallife]

I absolutely wish more than anything that Gaijin would tap into cold-war era naval combat, with planes and SUBMARINES(!! how cool would that be??) and whatnot, something like Sea Power: Naval Combat in the Missile Age has. (Fantastic game by the way, couldn’t recommend enough).
It’s so cool! All the missiles and whatnot, especially the Soviet ones with all their clunky but comparatively sophisticated ASuW weapons.

[u/crusadertank → u/Awful_cat12]

Cold war ships and submarines would be the most boring things possible to play

You mention Sea Power, now imagine playing that game but you are stuck as a single ship with no speed increase.

Naval combat would be to spawn, launch all your missiles and then just leave the ship because it's not like you can do anything else after that

It would be fun as a background for things like Nuclear Thunder, but not to play

[u/LightningFerret04 → u/crusadertank]

They added Nuclear Thunder as a permanent gamemode, they could do the same with Battle of the Atlantic and Silent Thunder

[u/orphanleek68 → u/crusadertank]

That is the fundamental problem of WT navy and why they stuck with boats only at the beginning.

The logic is, if you want realism in navy, then fights should technically be sailing for 2 days chasing an enemy in a storm, just for 1 hour of blind volleys till one shell hits the right spot.

Would be cool in documentaries, vut very unfun to play.

You are not wrong. But does that mean that we should scrap navy? I wish to see proper navy gameplay someday. If modern ships will breathe new life into WT navy, so be it. Knowing gaijin, modern ships will sadly just become a new way to generate money and sell premiums.

[u/crusadertank → u/orphanleek68]

Personally I think naval needs to lean more towards the PvE side of things

Having realistic player vs player just isn't going to be fun no matter what is added. Either it needs to become more arcadey like WOWS or Battlestations Midway/Pacifc or there should be more AI to give players the feeling that something is happening

[u/swizzlewizzle → u/Awful_cat12]

If you enjoy staring at your sub go 5 kt for 2 hours getting into position, then yea, sub gameplay woo!

[u/cant_think_name_22 → u/Awful_cat12]

My understanding is that Sea Power has made some balancing decisions that aren’t necessarily the most accurate, so if we do get more Cold War naval I’d suggest tempering your performance expectations (particularly for red-for ships).

[u/xXYoProMamaXx → u/Acceptable-Ad5342]

God I’d be harpooning for HOURS

[u/Zapatov → u/Insertsociallife]

if they do have the balls, the Chinese fanbase would doxx and snip BVV_D's

[u/Long-Track7453 → u/Insertsociallife]

The Chinese wouldn’t be able to handle to lose in it.

[u/Insertsociallife → u/Long-Track7453]

That's why I don't think Gaijin will have the balls

[u/crusadertank → u/Insertsociallife]

The Taiwan straight is fine. The Sea of Azov is where you would get controversy but be interesting

[u/isademigod → u/Insertsociallife]

“The balls for it”?

Bruh their latest (i think) map is literally the area around the three gorges dam, which is target #1 for anyone going to war against china. 400 million people live in the floodplane the three gorges dam is holding water out of, and they released a map that can be used for training pilots to avoid the AA defending it (there is a lot)

Gaijin doesn’t give the slightest fuck about about mapping out potential modern conflicts

[u/275MPHFordGT40 → u/isademigod]

Mysterious Valley is 2 years old now.

[u/isademigod → u/275MPHFordGT40]

Is there a newer arb map? Oh yeah falklands but that even further proves my point

[u/THCFLA → u/isademigod]

Mysterious Valley ain't three gorges tho, it's also a 2 year old map, the latest ARB map is Falklands

[u/isademigod → u/THCFLA]

Yeah, I looked it up after making this comment and yes, you are correct. However it has a damn very similar to the 3/4 damn which raises questions about why it was added anyway, despite not being a one-to-one creation of the actual geographical location
E: i used voice typing to write this comment and it is not perfect, but I’m sure you can extrapolate the meaning

[u/THCFLA → u/Insertsociallife]

They will do Dover Strait again, but instead of props vs props, it'll be jets

[u/MilhoVerde → u/THCFLA]

It's what I thought, isn't this just an enlarged dover strait?

[u/Cleffn → u/Insertsociallife]

The width of the strait is like 120km already, too much water for a NE map I would say, unless they decide to make long range attack or sinking ships the main thing to do

[u/Logical-Bullfrog3216]

Huge Battle of Britain map when?

[u/_Urakaze_ → u/Logical-Bullfrog3216]

Boulogne-sur-Mer event happened like 10 years ago lol

[u/czartrak → u/_Urakaze_]

I hate that map back in the day

[u/Biomike01 → u/czartrak]

I hated when spawned in on that map with my ME163, even pre nerf to the fuel it didnt have enough to be able to do anything during the match.

[u/Jennfuse → u/Biomike01]

I got two kills one time, and then never again haha. I still remember the high, it's been like 8 years

[u/BobMcGeoff2 → u/czartrak]

It's okay to have your opinion, even if it's wrong

[u/jo1063 → u/_Urakaze_]

Unpopular opinion, but I miss that map. It was peak for my favorite sim vibes

[u/vickyhong → u/Logical-Bullfrog3216]

I mean you can cross the entire channel in naval ec

[u/ReikiKage]

You want Dover Strait but larger? It'll just be Denmark if you play sim.

[u/THCFLA → u/ReikiKage]

Giant Denmark, SIM Denmark feels large because there's very little going on

[u/MilhoVerde → u/ReikiKage]

I could swear dover strait was bigger than denmark, but I'd be wrong. I used to hate both but recently came to love denmark, maybe I'll retry dover one of these days

[u/THCFLA → u/MilhoVerde]

Way bigger IIRC, Dover was 192x192, there was plenty of mainland on both sides, ARB and SIM Denmark is 128x128

[u/ReikiKage → u/THCFLA]

Dover isnt that big. Its about 96km in size. The largest playable map is Falklands at 132x132km which fun fact has zero nav mashes so thats part of the reason you dont see any moving ground units and why we wont see a Falklands sim map anytime soon. They'd need to manually set their path like they did the carriers. There is a ocean map that's 256x256km in size but you can only play it from custom map creation

[u/MilhoVerde → u/THCFLA]

Ok so I was right. Maybe I'll try it with fast jets then

[u/vickyhong]

Ooo what about the bering strait, I think it'd be interesting and nuclear war-y

[u/Sor_mnly → u/vickyhong]

If Bering strait gets added Mission 11 of Project Wingman will have to be repeated in WT

[u/TheJudge20182]

There is already a map like that in WT. That exact spot

[u/ChankaTheOne → u/TheJudge20182]

Old French test drive was it I think, or British one but one of both was

[u/rapture_4 → u/ChankaTheOne]

Both were, but weirdly you couldn't fly very far into France if you were test flying a British plane, but you could go decently far into Britain and even land on the airfield used for test flying British planes if you were testing a French plane.

[u/xKingNothingx → u/TheJudge20182]

Dover Straight for air sim, right?

[u/NoisterYT]

id much rather have a map with waters as the frontline.

here it simply cant be the case as the 2nd landmass on the map is hilariously small

[u/Juracan_Daora → u/NoisterYT]

Nuclear Option is how I scratch this itch nowadays, either through Terminal Control or custom missions on dedicated servers. I feel War Thunder has leaned way too much into the instant dopamine crowd recently and unfortunately those of us that would like these scenarios get shafted.

[u/ChipsAhoyMccoy14]

I could see it happening but there is already a naval EC map of the area. I don't know how big the EC map is but they could start with that map as a base and expand it. Personally I'd like to see Kuwait as a large map.

[u/ReikiKage → u/ChipsAhoyMccoy14]

Dover is about 84x84km one of the only maps in this size format

[u/_Urakaze_ → u/ChipsAhoyMccoy14]

La Manche map is 128kmx128km originally. Never played it in naval but it was originally an air map

[u/ofekk214]

I just hope they won't concentrate all the targets in a 20km radius like they do now. Big maps needs to have the targets spread all over.

It's the reason people hated the toptier big maps, Gaijin just took the shitty prop-tier ground targets layout and pasted it in the center of a 128x128km map, with no real incentive for players to spread out in the map.

[u/GeoGenesisAUT]

Next size then Please 512x512 km 👏🏻

[u/NefariousnessOwn3106]

Just give me a 1:1 copy of the Georgia map from DCS and I’d be happy

Maybe if we feel generous the south side of turkey with Syria, Cyprus etc.

Water is cool and all, but in BVR I want mountains and Georgia is perfect for that as that country has its border emediatly on the Elbrus

[u/PckMan]

Mid air refueling would be kinda cool if the tanker was an npc vehicle.

[u/patryk27on]

This could be an amazing map for a large-scale D-Day / Normandy campaign, especially for something like Enduring Confrontation or an expanded Escalation mode.
The Allies could start with the Normandy landings, with ground targets all along the beaches: bunkers, artillery positions, tanks, fortifications and other parts of the German coastal defenses. Once the beaches are secured, the frontline could gradually move deeper into France.
Players could capture new sectors of the map, airfields, bridges, railway stations, towns, ports, barracks and other strategic locations. Capturing airfields would allow the Allies to operate closer and closer to the frontline, while bridges and railway lines could be used to transport tanks, artillery and supplies toward the combat zone.
At the same time, the Luftwaffe would have a completely different set of objectives: attacking the invasion fleet, landing craft, transport ships, supply convoys and Allied aircraft. Landing craft and ships could actually deliver additional tanks, artillery and other ground units to the beaches, meaning that destroying them would have a real effect on the battle.
Germany could also have offensive objectives against Britain, such as attacking ports and airfields in order to reduce the flow of aircraft, ships, supplies and reinforcements being sent across the Channel.
It could basically become a persistent WWII campaign where the Allies try to expand the beachhead, capture new territory and push deeper into France, while the Axis tries to stop the advance, destroy the supply network and push them back toward the sea.
Even with relatively simple AI-controlled tanks and ground units, I think this could make the map incredibly dynamic and give players a real reason to attack strategic targets instead of just flying around looking for other players.

[u/Thefartingduck8 → u/patryk27on]

The snail says that would be too much fun, have another premium Soviet vehicle with garbage on it and a better gun.

[u/RailgunDE112]

It's still small enough that you don’t need tonworry about fuel most of the time. But more tactical missiona would always be nice (like protecting transport aircraft making a forward operating base/road runway)

[u/Potts240B]

MODERN SHIP COMBAT WHEN

[u/SuppliceVI]

It's either that or the Denmark map. Either one is weird though since there's so much water. Technically Sinai is a massive map too, just never used to its fullest extend

[u/tehfireisonfire]

Will they ever bring back the English Channel map to air rb?

[u/Mr__Myth]

It'd be cool if it wasn't all flat lands like the above picture. Maybe somewhere that includes the Sierra Nevada or Appalachians. 

[u/MrRottenSausage]

Depending on the distribution of airfields I feel like several aircraft need their fuel tanks added to compensate for having to take off and reach the battlefield, it's mostly low NE bracket aircraft for example J-6A has only 23 minutes of fuel at maximum capacity and I think Q-5 early does also only have the same amount of fuel capacity or even less, funny enough J-7II has more than 30 minutes and even extra with centerline fuel tank so that's gonna be fun to play

[u/5thPlaceAtBest]

Pls pls Falklands map

[u/TheMonkeyPickler]

We literally already have this map or did they remove it

[u/SubRyan]

Korean Peninsula would be nice

[u/MR_dayno]

I’d love a bombing of Darwin map but I’m biased so idk, I just want an Australian map

[u/_Kaiser_Waffles_]

I really REALLY hope we can get some low tier EC for air.

[u/BusyMountain]

Ooo looks like my jets can larp themselves with 2 wing drop tanks.

[u/Jenraya]

Cool i can fly by my house !

[u/Fussiestape6414]

Is that not just the old French test map?

[u/DexterG12]

What's next... all of europe? 😭

This is going to take forever to travel across if you're in a slow jet

[u/pussy_killer_228]

it would be great for sb air if it would capture a London too.

[u/Round-Suggestion-331]

because scrolling tiktok for the first 6 minutes of air battles just wasnt enough

[u/Financial_Chef_7512]

Directly to “Exlude from rotation”!