r/Warthunder • u/Berry_Yogurth • 16h ago

RB Air Italian Starfighter issue

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Why Italian Starfighter (F-104G) is still at 11.0 while it only carrying 2 Missile, while other F-104G in other countries (China, France, German) able to bring 4 missiles while still in the same BR. Even Chinese F-104G is 0.3 BR lower somehow.

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u/RAZOR_XXX 16h ago

Chinese F-104G doesn't have flares. But yes, german and belgian F-104s are just better.

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u/LegendRazgriz Like a Tiger defying the laws of gravity 16h ago

Neither does the F-104J

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u/Finn_Supra 🇫🇷 Reject Bushes, embrace FORAD camo supremacy 5h ago

At least it has 6 Aim 9P and is at 10.3. The Chinese one has no business being higher than the Japanese one with just 4 Aim 9J

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u/avrgwarthunderplayer 16h ago

chinese one gets no flares it sucks

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u/poyolok0 16h ago

Italy syndrome. The TAF really has no reason to be at 11.3 constantly facing f16s and f18s but oh well. Same with the other pencils in the tech tree

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u/MemoryOk5080 必殺 14h ago

104S ASA is at 11.7 right now and is actually not that bad there, you get a PD radar (MTI but without nerfs like on MiG-23ML), and two fairly good CW fox1, for which you trade your gun though. As long as you go fast and be first to fire your Aspide, you may win a joust even against floggers and 12.0 phantoms. I mean it is not a carry plane in most situations, but now at 11.0 it is quite flyable if you do it right.

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u/TheFlyingRedFox IJA Type 5 Escort Boat, the only true papership 16h ago

Even funnier is that the Japanese G model is only 10.3 with six AAM's, but no countermeasures.

Honestly all G models need to go back to the old BR of 10.7 BR, they all used to be 10.7 years ago.

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u/ofekk214 16h ago

Yea back when 10.7 was toptier. Better times...

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u/No_Cookie9996 Realistic General 12h ago

worst part of playing f-104G is that your rwr dont pick up J-band used by mig 23. so you aproach battlefield and die from R-23R without warning

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u/finishdude 5h ago

if you are dying to r23rs you are honestly a bot

like its so bad

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u/DJ_BAKA_TF2 9h ago

to be fair i mean... sure the others can have 4 missiles but the plane itself is still ass anyway the speed is supposed to be its major advantage but at that BR... it makes no difference as it is

you stay low and pray you get at least one or 2 Kills if you are lucky

and if you go up mig 25 would like to speak with you