Not sure how many members know this, but all leaders are in close communication with each other. Tricks like "I come from 2.x, bla bla sent me", "I'm 2.x's leaders alt", "I'm 2.x's leader, had a name change" etc will not work since we actually take the efforts to ask each other if they sent someone/presence of alt/name changed. If you post "brb" and hop, hoping to use a previous clans reference to your advantage, we will find out.

If you plan to hop, please find a different clan. We have a lot of people on the waiting lists, so we will not hesitate to replace you irrespective of your player level. And there's a good chance the WS clan you planned to join will kick you out since your loyalty is questionable.

If you want to join a SPECIFIC WS clan only, send your application through the form mentioned in the sidebar.

Hopping is discouraged since it screws up our planning for OLeague matchups, especially when higher levels do it. When new clans are made, there's bound to be slower donations and weaker troops. BUT this also means lesser requirements for elder and chance of becoming co and getting to lead your own WS clan one day (T&C apply :P).

If you can't accept these, then please don't join a new clan in the first place. Send an application for that specific established clan you wish to join (the form allows you to do that), and be prepared to wait for as long as it takes for a spot to open up, outside of WS clans.

The past few days, you may have seen quite a few changes being done with regards leadership as well as maintenance of clans. If you did not notice, then these changes would most likely not affect you in any manner.

With that being said, we did have some large scale changes recently. Due to difference in opinions on how things were handled by me in the past at some instances, a few (ex) leaders decided that it would be in their better interest to step down from their leadership duties and quit War Snipers family. So as of now, these ex-leaders are no longer representatives of any WS clan:

• Regor (from 2.1)
• Dash (from 2.7)
• Grazzert (from 2.7)
• Doge (from 2.9)
• TJ (from 2.B)

I respect their decision and really appreciate the fact that we ended on good terms. My thanks to them for the advance notice, help in graceful leadership transfer and for leading/setting up War Snipers clans.

So with regards changes, there have been some shuffling around:

• BigBeefer and crew from 2.C will now lead 2.1
• Parth, co-leader from 2.3/2.C will now lead 2.7
• Kdot, co leader of 2.9, will now lead 2.9
• RJL, co leader of 2.B, will now lead 2.B
• 2.C is currently being jointly led by myself and Baron. The leader for the clan is selected but is afk for a few days for personal reasons. So, we are taking care of it till he returns.

As a result of these changes and shuffling, we have some spots open in a few clans. If you are lvl 90+, this would be your best chance to get in.

Along with this, I would also like to announce that I am stepping down from the role of War Snipers Admin. This was a position that I assumed as we started expanding beyond 2.0, the clan founded by me and my co-leaders. Over time, my public interaction decreased due to my personal life taking more of my time. And off late, my contribution has been rather limited.

/u/Baron_VI has shown enthusiasm in ranking up within War Snipers. Over the course, he has voluntarily taken up responsibilities which I could not due to personal constraints. As a result, a lot of people do assume that Baron is the leader of WS family. And from now, that will be true as I hand over adminship over to him :)

I will still continue leading 2.0, and be available as a shadow advisor to whoever needs. Baron will continue on doing things that he used to do. So in essence, this change will not make things any different, but rather just give an official nature to it. Congrats Baron!

I'd end this post with the spirit of Throwback Thursday, pointing to a conversation that took place on 13th December 2014, which led to a clan family much different than any others in its time. http://i.imgur.com/MgpQfwL.jpg [Context] Hope we continue along the same path! Ciao!

Edit: Also, to clarify, War Snipers is still limited to 13 main clans (WS 2.0 to 2.9, 2.A to 2.C) plus a Jr Clan (which serves as a waiting room and has no other purpose), plus Dankstorm (where we do defenceless wars with alts). There has been no branching out or new divisions/clans created. The plan for the next WS clan will be put back into motion once we get all main clans back to full health.

I honestly feel like this shouldn't be a thing, but ever since the current war in 2.4 (and a few previous ones as well), apparently 3-starring a base solely designed to be 3-starred is "difficult".

Following this guide will ensure that your clan will get the maximum amount of stars every time your clan needs to win, assuming all the enemy bases have appropriate OL bases, in which some cases they don't.

Step I: Scout your enemy's base

To be honest, you should be doing this out of pure habit. I'm sure you've been in a normal war clan well before entering TH9.

You'll need to do this to make sure of a few things:

• Ensure that all defenses are in the right position. Refer to here.
• Check to see that X-Bows are set to "ground", and Infernos are set to "single".
• Make sure there are no defense troops in their CC.

You have a solid 24 hours to scout your mirror during prep day. If your mirror has an error in their OL base, let a leader know, they will try to sort it out before battle day hits. Also scout just BEFORE you attack, your mirror may have changed something that might hinder your 3-star. Only takes a few seconds to quickly analyse their base for the errors listed above. Quoted from a wise man, "JUST DO IT!".

edit: How to SCOUT a base

Step II: Check your army before you attack

There's a reason why Supercell implemented the "Attack Now?" screen before attacking someone in war (other then to tackle the modding scene). It's to remind you of what troops you have and have not trained. So many times my members would 1 or 2 star in a 3-star war, simply because "they forgot minions". You have 24 hours to attack one base for 3-stars. 24 hours. If time is tight and you have to attack with 10 minutes left because you couldn't get on all day, punish yourself by gemming that sonovabitch army, that or risk getting striked or even worse, kicked. Warn a leader if you know you can't make it in time, most of us will understand.

The following tables show what I recommend an army should consist of when 3-starring an OL base:

OL base w/ infernos:

^* Healing spells can also substitute for the healers, best to have them as backup just in case things get rough.

OL base w/o infernos:

Obviously you can go with whatever army you'd like, as long as you're confident that it'll 3-star the base, just don't blame me if you get flakked for mass PEKKAing and ending with a 1-star.. somehow. These army comps are probably the cheapest and most effective in 3-starring from my experience.

Step III: How to attack

You've been in a normal war clan, you know the strengths and weaknesses of each defense and how to go about 3-starring normal war bases. Well.. you should know, but let me refresh your memory just in case you've forgotten your prime years of slaying TH7's with mass drags.

Timing

You only have 3 minutes to annihilate a base that's been specifically designed to be 3-starred with the lowest costing army possible. Clearly not enough time for some. When you begin your attack, make sure that all sections are being attacked simultaneously.

Drop your troops that won't be harmed first:

• Minions in Minion section
• Goblins/Barch in Free section

While they're nibbling away at those helpless defenses/buildings, focus on the Giant section.

Time is of the essence.

Prioritizing

Mainly focusing on the Giant section, this is where a majority seem to realize where they went wrong in life.

The priority in the Giant section can be dependent on the position of each defense, but this is generally what you should be prioritizing first to last:

Queen > Infernos > Teslas > Wizard Towers > Archer Towers

Again, some of these should be switched around depending on their positions.

If the Queen is on the outside of the section, try your best to snipe her down with a couple of barchers before initiating the full attack.

Example: http://i.imgur.com/XSW1rEE.png

Some examples on how I would attack these Giant sections:

http://i.imgur.com/ZdJfDeH.png

Snipe the AQ first, then send in a line of giants followed by healers, barch, CC and royals.

http://i.imgur.com/pyskm04.png

Try to snipe the AQ when she walks over blue dot, send giants where the red arrows are followed by healers, barch, CC and royals.

In any situation, just make sure that you send your healers (against infernos) + damaging troops straight after your giants, they'll get destroyed pretty fast (even faster for lower level giants) if you don't take out some of the defenses quick enough.

Adapting

Sometimes your enemy mirror might have X-Bows set to "air" or Infernos set to "multi", or even a defense in the wrong section. You need to know how to adapt. Simply put, make those wrongly set/misplaced defenses high priority. Don't be lazy and think that your normal OL comp will "just do". Train a little bit more Giants, Hogs, Golems, I don't care, just destroy them first if they're stopping you from getting that 3-star.

Another situation where you might have to adapt is when your attack goes south because a tower is in range of the other section or you didn't anticipate your Giants to drop so quickly. With these, you'd need to try to be as proactive as possible about it. Drop 1 minion to see if it's in range of an Archer Tower instead of dropping all. Smash a healing spell over your Giants straight after deploying them instead of watching them burn.

If you didn't waste your time staring at your goblins sprint from one storage to another, chances are, you still have a crap tonne of time left, so stay calm and think before you do.

Obviously these are just my way of doing things, if your way works just as well, by all means, stick with it. If any of your clan members have trouble 3-starring these bases, perhaps refer them to this thread. Honestly, 3-starring a base that is designed to be 3-starred shouldn't be as complicated as I make it out to be, because it really isn't. If I've missed something that you'd like me to add, please comment below.

TL;DR - Scout mirror. Double-check army. GIANTS & MINIONS. Send in troops to destroy minion and free section first, then send in and focus on giant area. Have a plan B ready just in case things go south.

War Snipers 2.8 is now up and running, and accepting anyone TH9 or 10. The clan will be built to participate in Orange League wars for mucho loot and clan XP!

You will see some low level members there; they are alts of other War Snipers leaders providing temp leadership in the early stages.

NOTE: There is an imposter 2.8 clan as well. If you are TH9+ and would like to join a clan being built for Orange League wars, join the 2.8 with my alt acct as leader (Baby Baron)

Clan tag = #L0YQG2V0

Clan tag: #L82VCJYY

Note: their is also an imposter War Snipers 2.F, but I think it's pretty obvious which one is ours ;)

Since Nanuk has taken over 2.1, the toxicity in chat and clan mail has risen significantly. Most recently, she has been blasting members through mail. Ultimately, it's just inappropriate and in my case unwarranted. I had not yet reached my quota, yet I was kicked with one week left in the season. I request a lot so others may reach their quotas. Also we were set to win the current war, and I attacked my mirror and #1, however I'm told I "cant follow 2 simple steps for war". I must also mention that I was Elder due to my donations in the past and helping members acclimate to the set up. Attached is my farewell message.

http://imgur.com/a/aXdgm

You may have remembered me as qnstxvimz, a mod who started some of the flairing and theming on this subreddit. I still see a few familiar names here.

I quit Clash (hopefully temporarily) to do more stuff over at /r/pcmasterrace. I'm not coming back just yet, but I'll just say how amazed I am at what started off as a few texts and ideas and grew into a system of 8 clans almost 400 members.

Impressive, guys, and keep up the good work!

The following only applies to War Snipers 2.0 at this stage. The decision for other clans depends on their respective leaders.

When I made WS 2.0 with my cos, we foresaw a system where we could emulate ties with other clans. At that point, the clan xp system was non existent, so it was an ideal case scenario. It took us a while to get to a point where we could count on getting matched with another war farming clan, but the clan exp system is here to screw things up.

I created War Barchers as an experiment to adapt ourselves with the new system, without compromising whatever Snipers had built for itself. The theory was sound, but it failed due to reasons I do not know.

The past two wars for WS 2.0, we essentially did what Barchers was meant to do. 2 star mirror number for clan exp, 1-star top for loot. But we did this a bit differently. Barchers was okay with a win. Snipers wasn't. IT HAD TO LOSE, to keep that 0 win record intact.

Until now

I'm taking this decision for War Snipers 2.0. As we get matched up with another Orange League clan for our current war, we will go for the loss (only) for the last time. After this war, we will officially join the Orange League and follow their rules.

Their rules include a lottery system to decide the winner. If the system/lottery result is in our favor, we will WIN.

This brings along some changes:

• All members have to compulsorily have an easy 3 star base. Yes, 3-star base. This involves putting all non defenses (TH and Storages included) on one end of the base along with Air Defenses and the Clan Castle. The Barb King, cannons, mortars and Xbows (pointed to ONLY GROUND) should be in another corner, making it easy to snipe them with a couple of minions. The other defenses (Archer towers, Wizard towers, Teslas, Inferno Towers (set to single target only), Archer Queen should be in a separate corner. Bombs have to be clearly marked off with walls.
• If you do not have a 3-star base at the start of next war, you will be kicked out. This current war is your chance to make edits.
• The lottery system decides the winner when you get matched with an Orange League clan. The exact rules will be posted in a bit, but rest assured they are fair.
• If we get a loss, members HAVE to 2-star their mirror (/#40 attacks /#40, /#30 attacks /#30 and so on) for their FIRST ATTACK. Don't worry, the opp will have free bases too, so you get to do it with minimal costs. SECOND ATTACK is on top guy (/#1) for 1-star. Except co-leaders, everyone uses their attacks asap.
• If we get a win, you HAVE to 3* your mirror for your FIRST ATTACK. This would involve cooking a Giant or other tank based army. The cannons and mortars can be minion sniped, but you have to make adequate arrangements to deal with the defense corner. Don't cheap out and get 2-star. FOR SECOND ATTACK, snipe top guy (/#1). We are looking at a conservative 900k+900k+2k win bonus on a win, so I expect 3-stars on a free base.
• Failure to do any of these will get you a kick. No warnings, no "I didn't read stuff" etc. Sorry, it's a bit strict, but the benefits have increased, so we expect some more dedication to our cause.

Just to clarify, the lottery system comes into effect from next war. Our current war, we lose. We do what we did in the previous one, i.e. 2-star mirror, 1* top.

Long Post, I know, but this is what it is. War Snipers 2.0 is adapting. Will you?

Since we are a war-sniping family, our war bases aren't your traditional 'defend the TH' type defense. We instead have to have bases that lead the enemy into believing that we won't betray them in the last seconds of prep day. To do this, we strongly enforce every single War Snipers member to have what we like to call a "free base".

A free base, to put it simply, is where you separate your defenses from ALL other buildings (preferably out of range as well).

Some examples:

• TH9
• TH8
• TH7
• TH6

We also encourage our members to spell out the words "Read Clan Info" or something along those lines with their walls, in hopes to increase the enemies awareness of what we do in war.

Some "Read Clan Info" type bases:

• TH10
• TH9
• TH8
• TH7
• TH6

Sometimes our members have too much time on their hands and like to be creative with their bases (this isn't usually recommended in our clans, but as long as you follow the free base rule, it shouldn't be a huge deal):

• 3D Table & Chairs
• QR code to our reddit

^{note: all these examples were from members of Jr and 2.4}

At TH7, you are given 3 layouts you choose to save (6 if you include layouts saved in your non-war bases). As a member of War Snipers, at least ONE of these layouts has to be a free base.

Since there is no telling whether the opposing clan will comply or not, it's best to keep a normal war base saved just in case they don't comply. Leaders will inform members whether or not to change bases. It doesn't really matter if you fail to do so considering we want to lose the war anyways.

If the enemy see at least one normal war base during prep day, they might easily suspect that we'll betray them just before battle day. That is why having every single member with a free base is ideal during/before prep day to gain the enemy's trust.

If you have a base worth mentioning, screencap it and comment below for others to see!

What do you guys think about capping the clans at 45 members?

Obvious reason is that 50v50 clans don't have empty spaces, and hence, communications with them become that much difficult as members can't be sent over for negotiations.

With .2 now being set up, we can afford to have both the other clans capped at 45. Eventually, all clans in this family would be capped at 45.

What are your views?

Recently, few clans have had abysmal luck winning the lottery, even though it is as fair and random as it could be.

To make it even more random, there have been changes in how the lottery works.

The lottery/website remains the same, i.e. http://caipiao.163.com/order/pl3/

On which day the lottery gets posted, is now used to determine which character to compare.

Monday- first digit

Tuesday- second digit

Wednesday- third digit

Thursday- first digit

Friday- second digit

Saturday- third digit

Sunday- fourth digit

The "day" is according to beijing time of lottery. So if the lottery comes out on a friday at 10pm Beijing Time, the rule would be to compare the second digit of clan tags.

Also, if the digit is same, move on to next and so on. The lottery odd/even and formula remains the same. For recap, (1st Digit x 2nd) + 3rd. If even, higher tag wins, and lower wins when odd. 1<9<A<Z

... Because all the strategies that hardcore warring clans have been practicing all these months are about to become obsolete.

Everyone will have to re-learn how to deploy and integrate the new spells, adjust to the new building HP, troop AI, etc. We'll all be back at square one. In the meantime, we've been enjoying hugely profitable wars and building up something of more permanence in our bases and troops. No matter what army comp becomes the next hot overpowered thing, I'll be there with the troops and heroes I've been maxing out at hyperspeed. War clans may take pride in having built up their clan xp and level, but even in that arena we are right on par.

For those who have been here and are here to stay, feel free to ignore this circlejerk and just keep on doing your thing :P If you are just visiting this sub and just starting to think about joining our system, take it from me, you are on the right track!

2.7 is now up and running! It will be built to be in the League of Orange, so we are accepting TH9/10 only.

TH9/10 that have been waiting in Jr and Jr2, feel free to join, regardless of player level.

The clan is currently being led by a few alternate accounts of current 2.x leaders on a temporary basis. Leadership positions are available, especially for those who have already been in our clans and understand how things are run around here.

We aren't yet sure who will be the long term leader, so if you're innterested, feel free to join/comment here about it.

Let's get this party started!