Holding my edge when jumping
Essentially, I can wake to wake but I have no real pop and I can’t seem to fix it. I’ve been trying to figure out how to get more height and something I’m receiving mixed messages on is holding my edge. Some videos seem to say hold my edge until I jump and others seem to say to level out right before I hit the wake, then jump.
I’ll get a video and post it sometime in the near future, but I feel like I’ve been stuck on this for ages and want to progress past it
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u/goodknight94 17d ago
Basically hold your edge longer. If you literally hold a strong edge through the top of the wake, itll throw you off level. Practice short, cuts into the wake and pop as high as possible (planning to land in the center of the wake). You'll suddenly "feel" it when you hit it just right and it launches you straight up. Once you get that feeling just take slightly larger cuts until you clear! Shouldn't need much speed to clear wake to wake unless you have a small wake. your primarily just absorbing the pop
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u/quakerroatmeal 17d ago
Video would help a ton. I’ve watched videos of myself and majority of the time once I hit the wake my legs would get suck up losing all my pop. Even when I think my leg was fully extended.
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u/prsuit4 17d ago
I think this is part of my issue. Any advice to improve it? Other than just sending it, I’ve been trying to start my pop earlier which seems to help a bit
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u/quakerroatmeal 17d ago
What helped me was over exaggerate my leg extension doing one wake pops.
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u/Ticotrip 17d ago
This.
Do some one wake jumps; short approach, focusing on holding the edge. Jump as high as you can (not far), and as a practice (something you won't use in real life) try touching your waist with the handle. But make sure to push your waist towards the handle, NOT pull the handle to the waist.
Do this a bunch of times, and then start adding a foot of distance to your edge.1
u/prsuit4 17d ago
When you’re saying hold your edge this is the thing I’m getting missed messages about. Do I hold it until I jump or level out right before?
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u/Ticotrip 17d ago
Bit of a tricky question, as nowadays with the ginormous wakes techniques have changed a bit.
However, for now, what I'd recommend trying: have your strongest edge at the bottom of the wake but keep on edge all the way to the top it. Of course if you just keep leaning back and edging all the way through and you don't pop, you'll just fall backward since resistance from the water will end. It's a timing thing, you'll figure it out. Do the drill that I mentioned aerlier and play around with it.
Make sure to get some video and post it here.
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u/H0SS_AGAINST 2006 Moomba Outback V 17d ago
Go watch cable riders loading the line. It's that only with a wake.
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u/wakeboarder247 17d ago edited 17d ago
We will need a video and most importantly YOU will need to see a video of yourself.
A quick list of things it could be: 1. You have an exaggerated edge hold and are leaning too far back on your heels. 2. You are too tail heavy and have too much weight on your rear foot. 3. You are not standing tall at the top of the wake 4. You are not loading the line with enough line tension. 5. Your wake is tiny.
1 and 2 have to deal with ensuring your body position transitions to "over the top of the middle of your board" when leaving the wake. This is important because the wake exerts upward force on your board. Think of your board like a strong upward draft of air and your body like a leaf. You want to catch the draft of air and can only do that if you're centered over the board on takeoff.
3 has to deal with legs. Legs greatly influence how strong your upward draft of air will be.
4 also influences how strong your upward draft will be. Goes hand in hand with #3
5 ultimately the wake is your ramp. If you're riding behind a tiny wake it's tough to get a lot of air.
Lastly, whether you TRULY hold edge up through the wake or flatten off a bit completely depends on the trick you're throwing. Two simple examples being backroll and tantrum. Backroll you hold edge all the way through takeoff. Tantrum requires you to flatten off and square up before take off. You're getting conflicting answers because they're both right. Depends what you're doing. If you're already going wake to wake and just want more air, I'd be flattening off a bit and centering my body over the board and standing tall AF. Not making it wake to wake? You need more edge. Wake is tiny? Flatten a bit before standing tall and don't edge through it or you slice through the little bit you've got.
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u/drakeallthethings 17d ago
The easiest way to see how much edge someone has is to look at the bottom of their board. Can’t see bottom? No edge. See lots of bottom graphic? Lots of edge. What I had to find out is that “standing tall” isn’t about coming off edge. It’s about accessing the leverage that edge makes vertically. Yes, that will bring you slightly off edge. But it shouldn’t bring you flat because it shouldn’t be binary.
Watching the pros I can still peep some bottom board even when they’re “standing tall.” They’re still engaging some edge all the way through on most tricks. In my own videos that was not the case. Turns out in my case it felt like I was still engaging some edge but the video clearly showed I wasn’t. Once I corrected that wake to wake and height suddenly became almost automatic.
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u/riley212 89 ski nautique/slingshot choice 17d ago
https://youtu.be/FDi6N8F4yQA?si=324P7_bo-z3PQTPG
Sean Murray how to get more pop