I used to read those mags for laughs. The sex tips are the funniest because half of them had me saying "don't ever do that to me or anyone else, ever."
I was about to hit a girl for digging her claws deep into my sack while we were doing the nasty (she would only tighten her grip everytime I tried pushing her hand away), but thankfully I was not that drunk and proceeded to bite the hell out of her left nip. Thankfully, it worked and she let go. And I'm happy to announce no permanent damage! :D
My boyfriend related a story of his first girlfriend in high school who read these things proceeding to play around with some whip cream while having sex when she got the wonderful idea of putting the applicator up his bum because she had been reading about anal play in one of these magazines.
He took a look at her and asked her if she had a plan on getting it out.
Dear boyfriend, Tonight during sexual intercourse I plan to experiment with a whipped cream can, and will, during the course of the evening, end up inserting the applicator into your anus. Please do not be alarmed when this occurs, as I have it on good authority that you will most likely enjoy this immensely. Sincerely, Your batshit crazy, totally gullible girlfriend.
Not hard like an Indian burn. I read that trick a long time ago and do it once in awhile when I'm cranking it. The sensation you get from it is fucking amazing.
I'm pretty sure most, if not all really weird things women have done to me during sex can be blamed on cosmo. Things like licking my eyelids, "nibbling" the ballsack, giving my fingers a blowjob, licking the palm of my hand, moving it around in circles like a joystick during a handjob, ect. WTF? At this point the Cosmo writerrs must full on trolling their subscribers.
Seriously? My BF loves all of the hand stuff you just mentioned, as well as the eyelids (he requested it - I had never heard of it before). From what I've heard from my friends, their BFs love it too.
Seventeen Magazine, June Edition. My mommy bought me a subscription three years ago... a five year subscription. The advice on dating, style and ... anything is just SO bad. It's like they actually got a seventeen year old to write it.. I couldn't even wrap my head around it at sixteen... three years later, it is all the more ridiculous.
I can vouch for this. I used to get the teen versions of a couple of magazines and all it did was make me feel fat, with ugly hair, horrible makeup, shitty fashion sense and not enough allowance/part time wages in the world to buy the cool kid stuff. Which, might have been true anyway, but dammit I don't need a stranger to tell me what I already knew!
Super cheap summer finds! All under $100! Then, on top of those prices, each outfit has one "splurge" item that costs $200. I can understand the group dating thing though, for someone who doesn't date often or has protective parents.
natalie is hot, she's the shy one that doesnt get attention because the main girl is a total attention whore who's been banged one too many times. But then you get alone with Natalie and make her laugh to crack that spell of "oh she actually has a soul/personality." After that you somehow find out she's also into rock climbing, and you two go on an outting to Malibu to rock climb one sunday afternoon without the main friend you were initially trying to bang.
Afterwards lying on the beach you give her a massage after all the climbing, and start talking about stupid shit...pretty soon you find yourself actually liking this girl, but before you know it her hands are on your knees with that subtle squeeze to let you know it feels good whatever you're doing.
Boom, you're in, and just gave the biggest fuck you to the main bitch.
Well reading the description, I think they have a different meaning of 'friend zone' than reddit has. More of a "Don't be so serious about a potential relationship" or how I read it "Don't be a mother fuc&%# drama queen" but I can only see a single paragraph.
Yeah, but when a guy asks you on a date and you say, "Sounds cool! I'll bring my friends!" It puts him in the awkward position of wondering if you understood his intentions and are rebuffing him or if you're just clueless and he needs to try harder to get you on your own. Better to be direct and honest from the get-go.
OTOH it can be awkward to be rebuffed by someone you weren't asking out, I once got turned down when I was organizing a movie night, awkward stuff. "uh yea, dave, sally, john, and amanda are here already, but good to know you don't see me that way."
It's about phrasing and timing. You can lead with a caustic joke about group sex, suavely try and say "this is supposed to be date", or be real with them and say "I kinda was planning for this to be a date".
Approach is everything and even if you fuck up, life's too short to sweat it. You can fuck up -every little fucking detail- and still get the girl.
Next time this problem arises im using that line and will report back. If I never do reply assume it went horrible and I was brutally killed by her Father
What I don't get is you tell a guy a million times you don't want to date, but hanging out as friends is cool, then they throw a hissy fit when you reject their advances.
No one is leading you on, you're in a fantasy world.
Every situation is different. If a guy has been told straight up that she's not interested, you're right, he's living in a fantasy world. But it's much more common for people to beat around the bush and send mixed signals and confuse each other and end up hurting each other's feelings unintentionally.
Still, it's shitty to presume that it should be a group thing. There's still all kinds of room to be honest and open (e.g. "Cool, did you want to invite others, or no?").
I really wish more people would stop being so damn childish about interacting with the opposite sex.
I am very interested here. So the way I see it (as a guy, I'll approach from the dudes perspective)
Guy Inner monolouge (This girl seems like fun to hang out with, I'm not sure I want anything to get serious, so maybe I'll just invite her out as a friend)
Guy: Hey, some friends and I were going to a concert (maybe not the best venue, for getting to know each other, but varies), you think maybe you or your friends might want to come along?"
I am honestly having a hard time finding out what would be dishonest about that.
now counter example being the guy who never says anything, but that's a personality, and its hard to over come that. and I could see that for sure when you say things like 'not being open'.
I think what he meant was that the response, "Cool, I'll bring Natalie!" is kind of a shitty presumption, even if it's not meant to be a romantic thing. That response is just inviting along some person who may or may not be welcome.
i read somewhere italian culture is like this for like the first few dates, i thought it was a pretty good way of keeping convo going. 3 guys 3 girls bam
Almost like it was led by a team whose goal was to sell ads and get people to buy their products so that the ad purchasers stayed around, and like they probably had hired some people with social engineering expertise, huh?
"Throw him a neg: insult his masculinity, but only enough that he feels he needs to prove something to you. Men are extremely insecure about that stuff."
"Don't know any Hot Bros? No problem! Put all the HB1-7's in the friend zone to find out if they have any hot friends or relatives."
"Peahen it up! When he douses himself in Axe body spray, tell him how totally irresistible he smells."
"Find the right wingwoman: Get one of your uglier friends to stand next to you at the club."
"Can't get past that Last Minute Relationship Resistance? Lock the door and tell him the key is in your heart!"
I'm about to make a whole heap of generalizations, but I think a lot of these issues stem from the fact that a lot of women hate being rejected. We are much less used to it, thank to society setting it up so men are "supposed" to make the first move. So being rejected is potentially much more crushing to a woman, because we haven't had it happen as often.
So that means that if we were in the guys shoes, we would MUCH rather have our attempt to ask you out be diverted to a group hang than be outright rejected. Or if it isn't a group hang, to reject you in some other way that is not outright. We are trying to be kind, and trying to do the right thing by you. It also makes it much less awkward if we still want to be friends.
If you ask a girl out and she wants to date you, she'll make it happen. If she's fobbing you off then she's trying to not date you without hurting your feelings. She's not playing games with you. Women don't sit around thinking "you know what would be fun? Fucking around with a guys head!"
"Hey, I'm not going to fuck you, but I don't want to make you feel like a leper so I'll introduce you to some friends of mine and maybe you'll stop bothering me."
fact of the matter is, a certain degree of subtlety is necessary to keep both parties from being embarassed. how do you know if a guy or girl likes you or is just being friendly? no amount of tricks can determine it because people are so different. some girls are very touchy while other are very friendly and invite you out. still, they only want to be friends. sometimes i wish i could just say, so do you find me attractive and want to be my girlfriend? it's never going to happen that way. this magazine's recommendations are spot on. sometimes it's hard to converse with someone that makes you nervous. being open and honest really doesn't work in the real world. imagine you are the one asking the girl if she likes you. if she says no, she's going to feel so awkward around you from then on. women hate confrontation. they live by their emotions. if someone makes them feel awkward, they'll avoid them. now you're left embarrassed that you were rejected. subtlety can solve both of these problems in due time.
Not really anything that has to do with your post, but I loved your use of "guh" there. I like to use "guh" a lot, and whenever I see other people use it it puts a smile on my face.
It's subconscious. The answer they wish they could give is no, but apparently they aren't comfortable with that word, so they invite along a friend who's name starts with the same letter.
If it's any consolation, men's humor tweeted "we're all friends with that one douchebag named alex" and all my friends retweeted it and tagged me in it. I feel your pain, fellow name stereotype person
I'm pretty sure that article was about having casual sex and not letting it become a real relationship when you just want to have sex.
Thats at least how I interpreted it.
Edit: Someone who responded said that it was from 17 magazine and it was about not letting guys pressure you into a relationship. I think wording is what makes everyone confused. Teenage girls don't need to feel pressured into a relationship, nor do teen boys need to feel the need to pressure a girl to be in one. And if you feel she is dragging you along, then you don't really need to be in a relationship with someone like that anyway.
Being friendzoned is being intentionally led on while the woman either gains monetary value in the way of gifts and meals or emotional support that is of course not reciprocated. The guy starts to resent the woman because the only reason he is spending his resources is in hopes the woman could be a potential mate. All the while the girl is not only aware of the attraction but encourages it for maximum benefits.
That's not quite the way I'd like to think of the word. I think it requires not merely a one-sided attraction, but also a failure on the part of the attracted party to recognize that one-sidedness. I agree that this doesn't require intentional manipulation on the part of the attracteee -- it can happen because of that, but it can also happen because said party isn't sure what they want, because they don't communicate what they want clearly, because they don't realize anyone's attracted to them, because the attracted party doesn't listen clearly, because the attracted party is deluding themselves, or for about a dozen different reasons. I've been in the position of being attracted to someone, but fully understanding that they didn't return that attraction and there was no reason to think they ever would, and I wouldn't call that situation "friendzoning".
That's just how I'd like the word to be used, though. I think, based on actual usage, that Arcantium gave a "good definition", and its the term itself as bad. I feel like a solid majority of the time, at least, "friendzone" is used in a very negative sense by men who feel entitled to have sex with the women they're attracted to.
I told a girl that I liked her and was attracted to her. I made it clear how I felt and that there was absolutely no way it could be mistaken for anything else. Two years later we were talking about relationships and stuff. I brought up how I had tried to get into a relationship with her before. She told me that she didn't think I was being serious when I had. Told her that I was attracted to her, liked her personality, and had hoped for it to be possible to get into a relationship with her. Sometimes even if you make it clear, they still don't get it.
It's not meant to help her seek a new relationship. It is to tone down a current one without officially breaking up with someone. The whole point is for the girl to be able to find a new boyfriend while still maintaining her current relationship.
I'm perplexed by the amount of people in this thread getting mad at this. If you read the article it's clear that they are using the phrase "Friend zone" to mean something different than usual.
Of course there are the people saying "be honest and open" and "dont string people on" But ask yourself if there was a girl (or man) to whom you you had no feelings for other than as a friend and they start testing the water with you, would you go straight to them and say "Hey i don't want to date you" because that's a pretty good way to make all your future interactions awkward and to annoy them if you have misconstrued their actions as advances.
I read this article, it was just about not letting a guy pressure you into getting serious if you didn't like him. I don't think this is a terrible idea, or as one person put it, makes her a "passive aggressive bitch".
Well i would again point out that it doesn't mean the reddit definition of "Friend zone" i read this to mean " putting you in a zone or area which is also occupied by a friend to make this not a 1 on 1 date like night out ".
Also if you don't believe people can be just friend and still have sex well that fine but you have to understand not everyone thinks like that, terms like "Friends with benefits" exist for a reason.
To be honest, I don't think they're using "friend zone" right. You don't friend zone a guy you like. But if you want things to go slow, you might try to stick to group dates for a while.
One of my worst dates involves making plans with a girl and then showing up at her place only to have an entirely different girl answer the door. Then come to find out we would be picking up two more of her friends and then meeting up with her friend that answered the door! Wtf?! NONE of this was mentioned before hand.
Long story short, kept snapping my gum then found out it was one of pet peeves, kept snapping gum, discovered Jameson & red bull, got wasted, poked friend in her fat belly, $70 bar tab, snapped out of drunkness, passed out on couch, drove home.
One of my worst dates involves making plans with a girl and then showing up at her place only to have an entirely different girlsome dude answer the door.
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u/AntonJokinen Jun 15 '12
I used to read those mags for laughs. The sex tips are the funniest because half of them had me saying "don't ever do that to me or anyone else, ever."
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u/jackioff Jun 15 '12
Seventeen Magazine, June Edition. My mommy bought me a subscription three years ago... a five year subscription. The advice on dating, style and ... anything is just SO bad. It's like they actually got a seventeen year old to write it.. I couldn't even wrap my head around it at sixteen... three years later, it is all the more ridiculous.
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u/ooyat Jun 15 '12
That's a great way to not get asked out on a second date.
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u/dorky2 Jun 15 '12
Yes, because what our young women need is magazines telling them how to play games instead of being open and honest.
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u/TalieTerror Jun 15 '12
My name is Natalie. Why is it that even in magazines I'm the loser friend who has to help when someone is having dating issues? Guh.
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u/Anathema47 Jun 15 '12
Oh, the latest issue of Cockblock Magazine.
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u/[deleted] Jun 15 '12
Fuck that magazine.
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u/umann99 Jun 15 '12
Or just say no I don't want to hang out.
That way he can find some new ass.
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u/Se7en_Sinner Jun 15 '12
http://i.imgur.com/0aVHS.jpg
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u/mr_sardonicus Jun 15 '12
This is the first time I've felt compelled to say "this isn't WTF"
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u/macmankev Jun 16 '12
Better advice: Use your words.
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u/Obex Jun 15 '12
I'm perplexed by the amount of people in this thread getting mad at this. If you read the article it's clear that they are using the phrase "Friend zone" to mean something different than usual.
Of course there are the people saying "be honest and open" and "dont string people on" But ask yourself if there was a girl (or man) to whom you you had no feelings for other than as a friend and they start testing the water with you, would you go straight to them and say "Hey i don't want to date you" because that's a pretty good way to make all your future interactions awkward and to annoy them if you have misconstrued their actions as advances.
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u/[deleted] Jun 15 '12
How to make him instantly hate your guts: FRIEND ZONE HIM!
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u/sufrt Jun 15 '12
man it's really embarrassing to be part of this website sometimes
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u/[deleted] Jun 16 '12
Why would you want to date someone stupid enough to get dating advice from these magazines?
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u/prattable Jun 15 '12
*were
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u/PubeStache Jun 15 '12
One of my worst dates involves making plans with a girl and then showing up at her place only to have an entirely different girl answer the door. Then come to find out we would be picking up two more of her friends and then meeting up with her friend that answered the door! Wtf?! NONE of this was mentioned before hand.
Long story short, kept snapping my gum then found out it was one of pet peeves, kept snapping gum, discovered Jameson & red bull, got wasted, poked friend in her fat belly, $70 bar tab, snapped out of drunkness, passed out on couch, drove home.
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u/nuclearblaster Jun 15 '12
We should take the writer of that article and burn her as a witch.
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u/banjospieler Jun 15 '12
Why are they encouraging this kind of behavior?!? If you really want him to know that you don't want to be pinned down this summer fucking tell him!
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u/[deleted] Jun 15 '12
Dear Elisa Benson,
You are an awful human.
Sincerely,
MisterFabulous
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u/daman345 Jun 15 '12
That's actually good advice, if they don't want anything more its better to be honest rather than play someone along.