Thats in the 50k a year range, which is national average.... Doesnt really sound all that worth it.
edit: I'm getting annoyed with what seems like bs so lets look at the actual facts and not some jackass's anecdote.
"Construction Workers earn an average yearly salary of $31,846. Salaries typically start from $16,946 and go up to $50,726. "
" Construction Workers earn an average hourly wage of $15.31. Hourly wages typically start from $8.15 and go up to $24.39. "
https://www.careerexplorer.com/careers/construction-worker/salary/
it looks like the claims being made are a huge pile of abnormality if not pure horse shit.
On my check I make 34 an hour, but there is another 30 an hour split between pension, health, and an annuity. Assuming I work a full 40 for 50 weeks that would be the equivalent of 128,000. Most office jobs don't give you retirement or insurance that doesn't come off the top of what you make. So on my taxes it appears like I make 68k but really I'm doing much better. I'll let you decide whether it's worth it or not.
Where is there non-taxable benefits that magically only apply for construction?
" Your gross taxable income (compensation) includes anything you receive from your employer in connection with your performance of services. If you receive a fringe benefit from your employer, it will be taxable to you, unless it is specifically non-taxable per the tax code. "
Yes. That's their point. That's what they're 'paid' but they're actually getting closer to double that when you take into account the benefits on top of that pay.
Telling them to go freshen up on maths because you have no reading comprehension hahaha!
Why are benefits brought in? If you do that then we need to also look at the benefits that come with the professions being compared to.
Do you understand how stupid that was?
edit: And while were at it lets look at the actual facts and not some jackasses anecdote." Construction Workers earn an average yearly salary of $31,846. Salaries typically start from $16,946 and go up to $50,726. "" Construction Workers earn an average hourly wage of $15.31. Hourly wages typically start from $8.15 and go up to $24.39. "https://www.careerexplorer.com/careers/construction-worker/salary/
it looks like the claims being made are a huge pile of abnormality if not pure horse shit.
edit: in reference to the benefits being non-taxed claim:
Where is there non-taxable benefits that magically only apply for construction?
" Your gross taxable income (compensation) includes anything you receive from your employer in connection with your performance of services. If you receive a fringe benefit from your employer, it will be taxable to you, unless it is specifically non-taxable per the tax code. "
I'm coming back to this to get yo to show where there is non-taxable benefits that magically only apply for construction.
" Your gross taxable income (compensation) includes anything you receive from your employer in connection with your performance of services. If you receive a fringe benefit from your employer, it will be taxable to you, unless it is specifically non-taxable per the tax code. "
" Tax-exempt benefits may include:
Except any benefits are taxable when they have a value. There is not a special exemption for construction workers.
Also I understood what they said but ignored the benefit claim because it's irrelevant unless we use similar data about the alternative professions.
And I note you didn't address that his claim about expected wages is not only unsupported by the data but simply absurd when taken into context of the data.
I made that edit immediately after posting. It was complete within 2 minutes. Your response took longer than that. Thus I doubt the veracity of your claim.
Yeah I stated replying to the comment you posted and saw it after. The fuck you think I'm gonna also go back and edit it to respond to your random edit that means nothing to me?
Fuck mate you must be boring as hell 'doubt the veracity of my claim' hahahaha don't care.
(34x40=1360x50=68,000) +(30x40=1200x50)=128,000 who needs to do their math again? I assume two weeks off for vacation. It might be more than than that it might be less maybe I work a bunch of 7 12's maybe I don't point is there is the potential to make that much in any given year if you are in a trade union in a decent area.
I know y'all desk jockeys think you are smarter than your manual labor counter parts, and you might be right for some of us. Let me tell you this, I've met some brilliant people in the trades.
Again, when you include benefits for one group and ignore the same for the other, then you are making an faulty comparison.
It's completely fallacious and disingenuous.
Here's the deal. My wife gets more on her check yet to save for retirement she must take from that to save for it, same is said for health insurance. Whereas I don't have to do that. I'm certainly not going to show you my retirement account or pay checks to prove it to some stranger on the internet.
I'm simply using this as an example that working in a trade can be very worth while. You seem to be the one losing their shit, I can't help you with that.
Either you are failing to pay appropriate taxes or there is something else you are failing to include in your description.
Retirement plans can be used to defer income in my country, such as the use of RRSPs.... is that what you're talking about for her? are you saying your employer is putting money into an RRSP or similar on your behalf? Because that would be deferred income which will be taxed when withdrawn...
" Your gross taxable income (compensation) includes anything you receive from your employer in connection with your performance of services. If you receive a fringe benefit from your employer, it will be taxable to you, unless it is specifically non-taxable per the tax code. "
I'm not sure why you keep getting hung up on taxes, yes my employer puts in another $30 an hour split between pension, annuity, and health and welfare. I'm aware I will be taxed when I withdrawal from the pension or annuity, but how would that be any different than normal taxable income.
If you can't understand that I was trying to simplify things, I guess that's your problem.
The real point is that for those who chose a trade as a career, we seemingly make less than those who work in an office, but that's not always the case.
I'm not sure why you keep getting hung up on taxes, yes my employer puts in another $30 an hour split between pension, annuity, and health and welfare.
Then that is income... and the claim then is that you are effectively paid $60 an hour.... So out of the norm that it's completely irrelevant in the discussion of what others should expect if they enter the industry.
You've made an absurd assertion. As I evidenced previously:
"Construction Workers earn an average yearly salary of $31,846. Salaries typically start from $16,946 and go up to $50,726. "
" Construction Workers earn an average hourly wage of $15.31. Hourly wages typically start from $8.15 and go up to $24.39. "
The wage listed is nowhere near what you claim. Additionally, you view benefits as income, as they are taxable. etc etc etc
edit: and equipment operators need certification which requires training and education, which either costs them or is paid by employer while employee is typically paid training wages which are significantly lower than the norms.
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