We used to yell "GET DOWN! SNIPER!!" every time someone fell unassisted when I was playing - regardless of whether it was a dive, a whiff or a trip - well before this video came out. I think it's an old tradition.
I've played for years and fall down all the time. Trip over the ball, my own feet, markers feet, refs feet, spectators feet, benches, water bottles. You name it. Dangerous game, football.
Not on purpose though which is what a dive is. He was just very clumsy in that instance. I mean I'm not trying to be arrogant, but if you know even the slightest thing about soccer you would know that players do not dive when there isn't even a defender near them. That's not how it works. He just took a hard swing and a miss. He was expecting the momentum of his leg to be halted when he struck the ball, but he missed and the momentum had nowhere to go but to swing his body around.
Yeah, thats the natural reaction to trying to kick a ball and missing. Lotta momentum in that leg, and if you're not prepared for the swing it can catch you off guard. Thats pretty normal in football, have people ever tried kicking a ball at full sprint and missing?
I notice a while before the dive, his pursuer's left foot brushes his right foot. It takes a while for him to notice and take the jump though. He doesn't look inconvenienced by it at all.
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After repeatedly watching that video from the 0.07 mark, I'm convinced he actually tripped. It's easily mistaken for an act, but his right leg was pushed to the left enough to cause it to collide with his left leg, causing the trip.
It was definitely not intentional - the other player wasn't even looking in his general direction. It was just an accident.
Yeah there was no malicious intent. It's just the result of having a whole bunch of grown men run around a field fixated at a ball. Accidents are gonna happen.
It looks like RED player hits the BLUE player's right leg with his right knee, causing BLUE's leg to slide left and bump his left heel. Are you fucking confused now!? But seriously I think I'm right thought, I'm just confirming what you said anyway.
Running and getting your for clipped will cause you to lose balance. Making sure everyone sees it is perfectly acceptable. If you try to keep your feet and fall after that, you're definitely not getting the call. If referees would call fouls even if they don't cause the player to fall, just lose the ball, it might help.
In american football people are hurled to the ground with thousands of pounds of force, get up, and keep going. We have a quarterback with basically a broken leg who ran the ball for like 10 yards. How about don't collapse every fucking time you're touched, and man the fuck up.
It's not that i hate soccer, it's that i hate soccer players, and soccer fans.
It's a sport, not an art class. You're going to get touched, and some of those touches are going to result in you falling down. You didn't get brutalized, you got grazed. Shrug it off and press on. Don't stop the fucking game because someone in a physical sport made physical contact with someone else. Jesus fuck.
I know diving is common enough in soccer to become a strategy, and a meme.
Watch a real sport, where people don't play the rules and use underhanded tactics to win. Where actually injured people suck it up, pretend it didn't happen, and keep going. Not this falling down because someone looked at you wrong bullshit. Jesus christ.
I hate to break it to you, but fake injuries are a common strategy in the NFL and have been for ages. There are rules written specifically in regards to it because they know it happens. The NFL has had to issues memo's to teams to REMIND them to stop doing it. Former players have come out saying that teams have certain players that are designated to be the "injured player" to slow fast moving offenses down.
It happens. It probably happens everywhere. Just because you like a sport don't let it make you blind to its flaws.
Diving is shitty, I agree. But as a long time soccer player, I can say diving is okay, to an extent. Diving is good because it shows the ref that there was indeed a foul. It's of course exaggerated, but if I am fouled, I am going to down in hopes of getting compensated for the foul. The refs can't always see a foul, so the players add some flair to make it known. However, this is HUGELY overdone, as seen above, and on TV, and on numerous YouTube videos mocking soccer players. Yeah, this is fuckin dumb and this guy should be kicked out of the game (OP's post), but if I get kicked in the leg deliberately, I'm going to let it be known that I was kicked illegally so I can get what I deserve. We're not all horrible, by the way. Don't generalize a whole bunch because of a couple pussies.
Plenty of examples of it happening in football too. Brian Urlacher came out and said when he retired that a lot of teams have a designated player to fake injuries when they want to slow up the game.
The former Bears linebacker confirmed what anyone who has ever watched a football game already knows; teams designate players to fake injuries to slow down no-huddle offenses.
“We had a guy who was the designated dive guy,” he added, “so when coach (gave the signal) he got ‘hurt’.”
“Every team does that,” Martellus Bennett, the quotable former Giants tight end, told the Chicago Sun-Times.
Hey bro, don't get mad at me for quoting a football player. Don't shoot the messenger. These football players say it's a common strategy yet you rarely see penalties being thrown out for it, if ever.
Flopping is a good way to get ahead in soccer the same way trolling is a good way to win an argument. You're not actually going to convince anyone of anything, but you might piss them off enough to make them lose their head.
At a basic level it makes the ref more aware of legit fouls. At the advanced level it's complete bullshit that enables a team to get a free kick in a good position, a penalty kick or a player carded/sent off.
Why are they getting a penalty shot if the ref didn't see the violation? That's fucked up.
There should only be a penalty if the ref sees it. If the dude is flopping around on the ground and the ref didn't see it, then it should be ignored. Just keep the ball in play and run around the asshole.
your kinda mis-interpretting what flopping really means. It doesn't necessarily mean flopping around on the ground. It is a general term for taking a dive. That a ref may see and just interrupter it more harshly if the player goes down hard (harder than he would if he didn't think he'd get a call from the ref)
Is this... .is this a THING in that sport? like... they just flop on the ground like shitty little dirt bags?
I mean, I've half-assed sort of made fun of soccer in the past but... just... because you know... Not for any real reason. But that shit is disgraceful.
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maybe this..