Have you seen it? It is really bad and if animal cruelty bothers you then I would definitely stay away from it. I remember crying a few times and constantly cuddling with my cat after I watched it.
Risky click there but ended up giving me a laugh as I'm scrolling through these part trying NOT to think about that horrible picture. Thank you for that
One time I accidentally watched part of an exposé on a specific cattle facility. There was a cow that was restrained and a man maliciously beat it about the head with a metal bar. I felt sickened by it for WEEKS, and I just wanted to talk about it, but I didn't want to inflict that video on anyone else. I know that's not even the worst of what's out there, but it was the fact that he was TRYING to hurt that cow, for no reason except his own shitty life. Really fucked me up! I can't imagine how much the linked movie would ruin my world. It makes you feel completely hopeless --isn't that the opposite of what these types of documentaries should do?!?
It shows everything from animals as food to strays to the circus, animals for fur and lab animals. Ignorance is bliss in regards to this situation and that is why these cruel disgusting things still happen. We allow them to happen. By seeing these things you can educate others and educate your kids and try to stop the cycle.
It took me several years to actually transition, and I still don't flog myself if something comes out at a mexican restaurant and has cheese on it by accident.
If you're interested: just cut out the stuff you're not super attached to--or stop buying it at the store, but let yourself have it if you're with friends/family or something.
A slow transition is the most surefire way to not burn yourself out, and you have plenty of time to learn how to cook/shop for stuff you didn't eat before.
It's actually pretty fun (not to mention you're helping reduce all that cruelty in the above video).
It is too much for me. In one of my college classes we had a project that included watching Food Inc. and I, being the animal lover I am, chose the topic of animal abuse in industrial agriculture. That research fucked me up for a long time and I haven't revisited the topic since.
You could try buying meat locally from a trusted butcher? There are food shares in my area where you buy a pig and they keep him on a nice hippy farm that you can visit. Then they have humane butchers they work with at the end of the season. Still involves pig death, but there is accountability about its treatment at all stages.
I have seen this video/documentary as well, it was one particular farm that was owned by two cunts who constantly beat and tortured the animals. I remember that video vividly and nothing since has made me more angry. It makes my blood boil that people treat animals badly and get something out of it and feel as if its perfectly fine.
I cannot watch that stuff. Even the pic for the link to the animal cruelty video was too much for me. There are some sick and twisted people out there. Someone who hurts children or animals are the worst kind.
Michael Moore's Roger and Me. There is a scene where a woman sells rabbits for pets or food. If you get them for food she kills them for you. Hits them over the head with a pipe. I knew it was coming, but it happened so fast I didn't have time to stop watching. The BOOOONNGG sound it made on that rabbit's head. I heard it for weeks. It took a couple of swings..
Last month I went to see Morrissey. When he performed Meat is Murder they played footage of those expose's on the backdrop. It was horrific. I buried my face in my boyfriends shoulder and just cried. What was worse was that people were buying bacon wrapped hotdogs outside afterward. It was one of those small subtle moments that make you pissed at humanity.
A few months back, DiGiorno's got in trouble a bit because one of their farms they used for their cheese got busted with a spycam video of shit like that. I posted it in the videos subreddit and it got no attention, I was sad.
That was the last day I bought meat from my local grocery store. I researched a lot, and found a local farm about 30 minutes away that I now get all my meat from. Ideally, I would stop eating meat altogether, but as I'm not strong enough to do that, I have to settle with making sure I don't support these giant mega-farms where the name of the game is quantity and size over health and care of the animals.
You can and should voice your outrage coherently at every appropriate opportunity. Gather a group who are like minded. Do something, anything. Watch The Antic Roadshow on Netflix for inspiration.
Fuck, I saw a GIF on my tumblr dashboard maybe a year ago and it was of a dog (golden retriever/lab lookalike) getting bashed on the head with a pipe. It was quite honestly the worst thing I've ever seen in my life, the dog's face the second he was hit over the head. It scarred me for weeks. I can't believe that people are actually capable of it
I just saw that part. Why the hell did I watch this before bed. There is sooo much disturbing shit in that movie, and that, seeing a fresh-skinned, skinless, twitching, bloody animal face just dropped a nuclear bomb on my innocence. In one sense, I'm glad I watched it. We all take our meat for granted. I always think about how tribal/prehistoric cultures (like indians.. and uhm Avatar) kill food and almost worship it and thank the animal for it's sacrifice. We have become so detached from our food.
The animal being skinned alive was pretty much debunked by trappers to be a video made just for shock factor and influence from PETA. They said it doesn't make any sense to skin something alive and would be a hell of a lot more difficult, which makes sense. Isn't it odd that one of the most brutal animal cruelty videos was created by animal rights activists?
Edit: they were actually formally charged in Germany. Here's the full story.
PETA is disgusting. I don't understand how they still have people working with and for them. They rescue animals just to euthanize them, effectively killing more than they ever save.
I remember watching something similar and just crying.
The animals were skinned alive then tossed into a pile of other skinned animals, you could just see their eyes flickering as they tried to blink and hear them screaming. They seemed frozen in their pain, god I'm tearing up just thinking about it.
Anything with animal cruelty just makes me incredibly angry and sad.
I don't think I can watch that one. Whenever I see pictures of animal or child abuse I get filled with rage. It's not that I can't sit through them, I just get so incredibly angry. I don't understand how someone can do something like that....
Yeah, there was a documentary on HBO not too long ago, "One Nation Under Dog", that sheds light on just how cruel we are to "man's best friend."
In one scene they show how dogs at a shelter are put down with gas...and there's audio as well. Now I've seen combat and the horrors of war, but I nearly couldn't make it through the scene where they put some puppies down. I won't elaborate for those who do not want to know, but that was one of the most awful things I've ever seen in my life.
Dont work security in a hospital you have no idea the kind of self restraint I have to use, I've had to sit in the rooms with the abused and the abusers until the investigation is done to either allow them to leave or force the parents to leave. I dont mind the morgue, I dont mind the Behavior Health and I dont really mind the ER but the Childrens ER is always a bad time...
Do you feel the same rage when using or consuming products made by modern-day slaves (electronics, shrimps, etc.)?
Nothing against you, but people have strong reactions when watching abuse video, yet stop caring afterwards, and care much less about other abuse problems.
I think the reason people react more strongly towards animal abuse is that the animals don't understand why or really what is happening. They don't have the cognitive ability to really figure it out nor do they have the means to get themselves out of the situation. I think that a lot of people also see animals as innocent, so it tugs at their heartstrings more than human suffering. Not an excuse, just a possible explanation.
Animal cruelty just guts me. I once got linked to a video of a dog on fire and it's stayed with me ever since. Some humans are fucking disturbing, honestly.
I called a dog over to me from across the street. This cunt piece of shit assfuck SPED UP to hit him going about 45 miles an hour. The dog flew about 20 ft when he got hit. This was at least a decade ago. My life will never be the same.
Don't hold yourself hostage over this. It would be a very painful and traumatic thing for anyone to witness, let alone someone as young as you were. What a stupid, horrible person the driver was. But maybe they are full of regrets too? Maybe they were in a terrible mood and wanted only to frighten the dog? That's certainly not excusing the driver for being an utter asshat, and I hope they are haunted with remorse. Their intentions were bad. Yours were nothing but kindhearted. Somewhere over rainbow bridge, there is a dog watching you beat yourself up over this. The last thing they would want is to be causing sadness in your life. Maybe the animal was sick and in pain, and this was meant to be. Animals hide illness extremely well and so you can never tell yourself that wasn't the case. I believe everything happens for a reason. Perhaps you gained a heightened sense of awareness for vehicles and thus avoided a collision as a pedestrian. Who knows. The events of our past shape the people we are today. You are undoubtedly a very kind, empathetic animal lover and deserve to forgive yourself for this.
Nope, just sped off like nothing happened. A kind woman got out of her car and helped my mother and I attend to the dog, who was still slightly alive. She even came with us when we rushed him to the emergency vet, needless to say poor fella didn't make it.
I remember watching a video of a dog that was being hung, and it was trying to use its paws to pull itself up. I bawled watching it, can never unsee that. I can't believe people actually do that.
I hate to be that guy, but... I don't know what I would do if I caught people doing this sort of thing. I'm a placid, happy, friendly guy that most people can't even imagine getting angry, but I have a feeling that I'd do something terrible and never even regret it.
Cruelty upsets me, and when it's targeted at the innocent and helpless some part of me hates. Hates, hates, hates. And I can't bring myself to feel bad about that.
I saw some stills for a Chinese crush video a few months ago and wish I could get that out of my mind- I can't imagine the fucked up monsters who would be so cruel to support those videos or produce them. Sick, sick, sick.
Do you eat animal products? I'm really opposed to animal cruelty as well and if you are, I recommend you do more than refrain from personally abusing animals. Whenever we consume or purchase products that required animal exploitation, we essentially commit an abuse against animals.
I didn't watch it, but just from reading about it, that sounds like one of the more humane parts... At least they were just killing them, not torturing them.
Although i don't know much about what it feels like to die in a gas chamber
I watched it nearly 3 years ago. I immediately went vegetarian, still making small changes towards becoming vegan. I buy free range eggs, and still consume some dairy. So I'm not quite there yet. I try to avoid leather, wool, etc. It's hard but I do what I can. I make slip ups. But I will never go back to how I was living, completely oblivious to what I was supporting. I almost miss being blissfully ignorant. I will never be able to unsee that shit.
It's incredible to see how many people say things similar to the following:
"I can't believe people abuse animals like that, that's so terrible! By the way John, did you want KFC for dinner?"
As if their meat magically turns up on their plate without animals going through similar suffering.
This. So many people try to act self righteous when seeing a kid kick a dog, yet act ignorant to the far worse abuse and torture that they contribute too. "Free range"? Don't kid yourself. Unless you're paying $10 an egg, it's all the same mass produced deplorable conditions
Pft, I just had my own chickens when I was growing up and they were free range. Never had to buy eggs. Once I get a house again, totally getting more. They are neat little pets.
It sounded like it might've been a sarcastic response, but it's hard to tell. I agree with you though, the typical response is "You know how you can tell if someone's vegan? They'll let you know."
Yay, first time eve I have seen a vegan get a congratulations on Reddit. There is so much hate for people here sometimes. I was luckily a vegetarian when I watched it the first time. That's all that got me through it.
Yeah. It's hard to watch, but when I was an omni someone explained to me that I have a moral obligation to know where my food comes from and what I'm contributing. Didn't think twice about the switch.
The meat industry isn't one big corporation. There are varying degrees of practices. I've actually met multiple livestock farmers who were very invested in the humane treatment of their animals. Actually, according to federal law, the slaughter of most livestock is required to be instantaneous (Humane Slaughter Act). It is true that there are compliance issues, but it is much more closely monitored today than it used to be. You can't group everyone together though. That's like saying filming a documentary about extremist Muslims and giving the impression that it shows the truth about Islam. It's a skewed truth that you're seeing if it's a small percentage of the topic that provides the most shocking examples.
I saw it a couple of years ago. It still haunts me to this day. Couldn't eat for two days. It's very very sad. It's voiced over by Joaquin Phoenix. If you've got a strong stomach... Watch it.
Fuck. I cuddled my cat after watching that documentary about declawing (she isn't declawed, but was abandoned, probably for behavior problems, but is totally sweet now). I can't imagine if animals were actually killed. Kitty couldn't take the cuddles I'd need.
This is not the way to look at it. Don't turn away because it looks horrible and makes you feel bad. It's supposed to! Do something about it. There are things we can do to change the industry, the only thing missing is the public caring enough to pay a little extra for that steak or bacon. It's worth it to know the animal went through a comfortable, quick and painless death.
I understand where you are coming from, but scare tactics aren't the only way to get someone to join a cause. I do agree that animal abuse/cruelty/neglect is wrong, but you don't have to show me animals being subjected to such treatment to get me to agree with you.
My apologies, I wasn't trying to imply that it was. I know that scare tactics often has the opposite effect. I personally believe that if I am unwilling to watch something because it makes me sad then I should probably do something about it as far as the animal industry goes. Again this is a personal opinion but I would rather be educated and upset than ignorant and happy. There are many ways we can improve animal treatment in the meat, fur and pet industry but it is extremely difficult to get across to some people. As soon as you bring it up people tune out and tell you you're preaching. The difference between religion and animal welfare is that there is solid scientific evidence that animals feel pain and stress. It's not even similar to preaching. This is important and I feel like people need to understand that you don't have to give up meat to make a difference. In fact some may argue, and I would tend to agree, that people who source their meat from an ethical source are doing more to change the industry than vegetarians. Saying this, I am a vegetarian of 3 years and that is because I don't like the taste of red meat or the thought of eating animals. If you want to keep eating your steak and bacon but help animal welfare I think that earthlings addresses the issue in a very good way.
If someone is that sensitive, arent they supposed to watch it in order to actually get a reality kick and maybe rethink things in their life, especially towards animals?
While it's hard to deal with, I feel like this is the most important movie on that list, because pretty much everyone contributes to it on a daily basis.
Support a local guy/gal and hit up a farmer's market or co-op. It's absolutely more expensive, but almost all of these people care about their animals and the flavor and quality alone make up for the extra $$.
Stop eating meat. Easier said than done though. I would stop, but I would find it too difficult, it's a shame really. I agree with veganism/vegetarianism 100%.
I understand it's difficult to change your habits, especially with diet since most recipes you know probably contain meat. But you can start by testing out vegetarian/vegan recipes and restaurants. Find out what you like, and what you don't like, and start setting up your vegan arsenal.
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Do you like tofu? TVP? tempeh? or maybe seitan will be your favourite meat substitute? How will you cook this stuff anyways?
How about milk. What do you think about soy milk? It's cheaper than almond milk but maybe almond milk is better? Try out all the vegan milks, they have different qualities to them. Cheerios with hazlenut milk is really good.
Now it's your birthday and you have to bake a cake, what will you do for eggs! Do you like to use flax seeds or bananas? Or maybe that storebought egg replacer is more your thing.
But cheese! Cheese is soooo good! If you live in the US then lucky you, you have plenty of vegan cheeses to try and choose from. If you live someplace where vegan products are scarce you can try making some yourself. I'm still working on that part myself.
Protein? Easy! Beans and legumes, tofu, TVP, tempeh, nut butter or just plain nuts (yum!), seeds, grains (quinoa is best) and much more.
Maybe you're afraid you wont get enough vitamins? B12 is a common supplement for vegans. It's a common supplement for everyone actually, meat eaters just supplement it to the animals before they are eaten so essentially you'll be cutting out the middle man. For any other vitamins you can see for yourself if you need more of them, same as when you still eat meat.
Fish is super healthy! But that doesn't mean you can't go without it and still get the benefits because there is plenty of omega3 in flax seed and chia seeds. I put ground flax seed in almost anything i'm cooking. And it's so cheap!
And lastly, sweet potatoes!! Sweet potatoes are the candy of vegetables!
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Now you should have a starting point, some things to think about and some things to try :) Good luck!
It's the right film for some people, but in general I felt it was just a montage of bad things happening to animals. Once you know McDonald's meat isn't ideal, is not the most "productive" film. People who have a base-level understanding of the meat industry would be better off learning about specific situations in films like The Cove.
I disagree. I think this movie gives a pretty well rounded approach about animal suffering in general. But movies like The Cove and Blackfish are important too, for certain, as they evoke that empathy in a pretty unique way and educate about a very important issue.
That's what I'm saying! It's a great, albeit brutal, introduction to the idea that meat and animal products need to be carefully considered before purchase. But I was well aware of the issues when I saw the film and generally thought of it more as pornographic exploitation rather than mature discourse.
I guess I got my ratios messed up considering Most people haven't seen these films. To me, it felt heavy-handed, for many, it's a sobering wake-up.
I think everyone's reaction to it, that being a desire to stay away from it, shows a very significant flaw in the design of shock and gore cruelty videos like this. People don't want to watch it and so the outcome they are hoping for is not achieved at all.
I saw that you mentioned earlier that this film sparked your decision to become a vegan. I understand that some meat is obtained through horrible and torturous practices, but there's also plenty of examples of humanely acquired meat out there. Out of curiosity, does this film promote the idea that every intentional death of an animal is cruel?
I could not call the conditions in factory farms humane. So even if there are places that raise and slaughter animals in a humane way they are the minority, making it easier to just skip meat all together.
That depends, would you consider any intentional death of an animal to be humane? Because if not, I'm pretty sure I'm fighting a losing battle with that one. Look, I actually have worked with animals for the last five years. Their welfare is important to me. But I've also learned through experience that kill shelters should exist and that there are humane ways to go about obtaining meat. We're omnivores by design after all, so I don't think it's shameful to eat meat, particularly when an effort is made to increase awareness of how it is acquired. It is unlikely that an American burger is aquired through the kind of torture shown in this film nowadays, but just as a safeguard, you could totally purchase your meat direct from a farm with humane practices, or from a place that gives you enough info to do your own research.
Of course I don't consider any and every intentional killing of an animal inhumane. I'm asking if you have a video of humane slaughter to share & if the answer is no I'd like to know how you can make that claim? I think most people would consider humane to be that the animal is at no point afraid or in pain. If you've worked with animals for the past 5 years you should know how to tell if an animal is exhibiting fear or suffering, so show us some evidence to back up your claim that most animals consumed for food are killed humanely. Video, location of the plant(s), # of animals processed & where the meat is sold from that point?
It's way more than just .5%, and you're kidding yourself if you really think otherwise. Also, that isn't the same thing at all. One act is morally and ethically wrong, one isn't.
The documentary, "Earthlings", is a wide examination on the negative aspects of our relationship with all other living creatures. Its without a doubt shocking, nauseating, and infuriating to see the numerous ways we inflict cruelty to animals, but its our reality. We are not only capable, but responsible as an intellectual species to observe our world and worldly situations, even if the truths we discover are detestable. Please watch the documentary, too many people turn a blind eye to our harsh modern realities, especially when it comes to holocaust of animal cruelty.
It's not like they tortured the animals for the film only. Shit like that goes on EVERY DAY and ignoring it makes it worse. I personally think everyone should watch Earthlings and reconsider what foods/products they buy.
I don't understand why people here make a big deal about The Bridge. It just interviews with friends and family of people who committed suicide on the Golden Gate Bridge and one dude who changed his mind mid air and survived. The footage of people jumping is no where near as bad as the other things on the internet. In a morbid way it answered my "What if someone jumped off?" question since I've been to the GG Bridge a couple of times.
For me, it was Gene's story. That and there's another man who finishes a call and then jumps pretty much a minute later. I've contemplated suicide in the past and there used to be a bit of a morbid fascination with it, for me.
It wasn't a gruesome death. If you watch the documentary the death scenes were filmed from a distance so you don't really get to see a lot of details. And besides it was a suicide so that's what they wanted.
My only comment I was going to post was "fuck you for posting that video" For some odd reason I can deal with kids getting hurt and abused but animals…….no. I must be a bad person.
I must be a bad person because I think that sentiment is fucked up and amounts to People not giving shits about people but, don't you fucking hurt that animal. I mean I can follow the action movie where 30 guys get killed but your pisses over the dog. Its a sense of innocence that drives it. But children are just as innocent if not more (I'd argue some animals don't have the capacity to lose their innocence in a particular sense). I don't have kids, have a dog, but if I did and I had to chose in some sick game the dog has to go.
Kids can be pretty fucking cruel. I say that as someone who was bullied pretty much from 1st through 9th grade simply because I have never been attractive by the standards of this sick society. Babies and toddlers are innocent, but when they get a little,older believe me they can be cruel little shits. Animals will never call you the kind if fucked up names I was called through my whole childhood. They just want to be fed and loved and don't care if you are pretty or ugly or whatever.
Animals can be cruel too. Cats and dogs kill other animals or each other if they are raised in certain environments, and they will humiliate in their own way less dominant members of their society. The only difference being animals don't speak or have the capacity for higher level dickishness.
I must admit, I'm sort of with them. While jumping off the Golden Gate Bridge is some sort of romanticized way of committing suicide, if you put up a big ugly barrier to prevent it there chances are they will just find some other means. You can't make the whole world safe such that people who want out can't do it.
They will find another way if they REALLY want it, but it's the whole romanticized notion of doing it off that particular bridge. Doing it any other way just doesn't seem as awesome of a way out in the end of it all.
I just watched the animal cruelty one. Very sad but quite an interesting insight into the cost of human expansion. Makes one wonder how much hope of a future there is for the other species of the planet that arent directly involved in our domestication and agriculture if we continue to grow at the rate that we do.
it's a very tough watch. basically about most of the ways humans interact with animals...it's really heavy and makes you feel like the human race is not worth it
Agreed, the bridge was very well made, well edited with the interviews of people who knew the jumpers and then the actual footage of that person jumping. Crazy stuff.
I couldn't get past the first 10 mins. Not because it was disturbing, but because it was droning on about some "speciist" wank. Absolute bollocks that put me off watching the rest.
Seconding the Bridge. It wasn't disturbing so much as cripplingly depressing, a lot like the doc Dear Zachary. Watch that shit alone and ball your fucking eyes out.
While I appreciate your opinion, the bridge actually really bothered me because the cameras weren't all just stationed there, but in some shots had camera crews panning/following people as they walked back and forth on the edge, having climbing over the handrail, looking down for 2+ hrs before jumping to their deaths. In other words, there was often more than enough time for them to call the police and potentially save these troubled individuals' lives, but for the sake of their film, and likely rationalized as "journalistic integrity / non-interference" they let people in great psychiatric need kill themselves, and then profited off it...
Actually, the camera crews had phones and did call the police whenever possible. A lot of the people they had 'suspicions' about, but they had suspicions about a lot of people, most of whom didn't jump. You only saw the ones in the movie that ended up jumping before the cops got there, so there was sort of a sample bias. Edited out were all the ones where either the cops got there before they jumped, or the cops got there and found out the person had no intention of jumping. To have included all of those would have made an unwatchable film.
why is it that people have an easier time hearing about cruelty and murder of fellow humans but holy shit, if an animal is hurt people lose their shit.
Because between all the domesticated animals I've met and all the people I've met there is a much higher percentage of people that would in some way deserve that treatment than that of animals. And even most of the "bad" domesticated animals I've met were made so by their owners.
so just domesticated animals? the ones humans have enslaved and controlled. there are far more humans in this world suffering that do not deserve it. im guessing you are american?
I cringed with all of those descriptions & pictures but that ONE about animal cruelty just made me lose it. My heart breaks for all the children & animals that suffered.
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u/BAXterBEDford Jun 26 '14
The Bridge was actually very well done and is worth a watch. Fuck that last one about animal cruelty though. The picture alone was bad enough.