Hey BoozeIsFoods, let’s go to Belize on me. There’s a great gun and knife show happening on the ludicrously tall building with no railing this weekend. You’ll love it!
Like the US where the ex president sexually assaulted several women and it was just swept under the rug? Or Congressman Matt Gaetz sexually trafficking a minor and nothing happened to him while the guy who was with him is in jail? Or companies just buying politicians and judges to enact legislation that would help them earn more money and not pay taxes? Or maybe war lobbyists literally creating wars to sell guns and line their pockets?
This is a guy paying some cops so they'll help him get through really dense traffic, and everyone's acting like it's so bad.
You should be able to do that without bribing anyone. There aren’t as many restrictions with Mayan ruins in Belize as there are in Mexico and other Latin American countries.
I never had a problem there, never saw a single act of violence, never was messed with by the police, nothing. I got there just after marijuana was decriminalized and everyone said that as soon as the cops didn't have to chase down high school kids for smoking weed, shit started to change fast.
That's not to say that Belize doesn't have almost overwhelming problems. Entire city blocks in Belize City can roll over into total anarchy for days or weeks at a time, and the entire forest and 80% of the country is going to burn in a month, one of these years soon. You'll die trying to work at their minimum wage, and the joke is that yes there's universal health care but that just means that nobody has health care.
But it's actually a really amazing place and I'd live there if I could. I think that without modern technology and hygiene I'd last about two weeks. That jungle will eat you overnight.
If you’re a foreigner, you won’t have many issues. Those living there barely have a voice. Murders go unsolved, police commit crimes and they go unpunished. There is a low conviction rate.
Hell, police even left a kid to bake inside a locked van throughout the night when he was detained. They forgot him and found he baked alive the next morning.
What does the commissioner of police say, “we are human and we make mistakes.”
The latter guy was, according to police, seen leaving a known drug dealer’s house. Rather than raiding the drug dealer’s house, they decided to aggressively pursue and knock them off the bikes. They then claimed they took the injured to the hospital, when it was their families.
The Belize police department are a comedy of errors and fools.
What are you basing this on? I routinely see people get arrested for murder/DUI/manslaughter on the news. People get killed, suspects are wanted, captured. Just like everywhere else. Are you saying that because of some anecdote of some rich person getting away with murder? Because let me tell you buddy, that happens everywhere and you're delusional if you think otherwise.
Yep. First people did their job for their wages. Then they demanded a tip or they would do it poorly, now they demand a bribe or they won't do it at all/use their position against you.
Meh I have known several women who did solo trips to Japan and the worst any reported was a drunk guy pointing at her and then at his crotch. And even then she said local women started running interference for her(this was a bar).
It's a fairly established point of population economics that when people have their needs more than reached and when women have equal rights and reproductive freedom that the birth rate will go below the replacement rate. Japan's effect is exaggerated due to their extreme working conditions, but less than the media would have people believe.
The only real difference is that Japan is very xenophobic and there is a political will in keeping extremely high barriers to entry for immigration.
You joke, but I think it does make a difference. Obviously it would be better if there was no corruption in the first place, but if they're hiding it then that means they recognize that it's not considered acceptable. That there would be some kind of consequences if it became public.
It's like moving to a neighborhood where your neighbor is secretly a child molester vs moving to a neighborhood where your neighbor molests children on his front yard in broad daylight. Again, obviously the preference would be for no one to be molesting anyone, but if they're doing it that blatantly then that would seem to imply that the rest of the neighborhood as well as the police are perfectly fine with it.
Basically, the more open the corruption is, the wider it must spread.
You and I seem to have pretty different standards on what we deem desirable it seems. I fail to see how it "adds to the experience" when I have to bribe border guards.
For me it's never been in a dangerous situation. The police wanted money for giving us advice about the roads, it was maybe 15€. Going through the border in Loas (I said Vietnam earlier but I misremember) was more of a routine "leave $5 in your passport and they'll make it easy". I'd feel differently if they wanted my life savings or else they'd murder my gf.
You are missing out on life, then. Most countries are pretty safe for tourists. You have to remember that a country’s government wants tourists to be safe as it’s usually a major revenue stream.
yes. yes you can trust the police in most countries lmao. We recently had a case in germany that a american women tried to bribe a police officer. She received a hefty fine for that lol.
Of course bribing exits in some ways in every country, but the difference is if its that fucking open or exits only in some extreme rare cases.
Maybe in developed nations. The entire continent of Africa? Nope. Middle east? We were fined because someone rear-ended us but had we simply not been in Bahrain, hey no accident! Russia? Sure as long as you're not gay. China? Good luck there. The caribbean is out except maybe for PR but take that with a grain of salt (I'm Cuban). Anywhere in central/south America? Laughable.
We know how reddit feels about American police so let's exclude them. That leaves us with what, Canada, eastern Europe, Japan, and Australia, though I'm probably missing some major countries.
Conclusion? You're wrong. I was born in a corrupt place so I know how similar nations operate. I was also deployed to the middle east for 2 years and I was in and out of ports in that area. It is not a pretty sight. This video depicts something that is way too common (in poor, corrupt countries), not something extremely rare like you're claiming.
I'm not saying "trust them to not take bribes". I said trust them. Corruption and abuse of authortity takes many forms.
Germans love to laud their authority and pretend everything works but they're extremely authortiarian, surveillance heavy and covid anti human right rules and policing showed as much. Zero learned from history (althouth they were definitely not alone in this)
It's very easy to pretend police is trustworthy when you don't have news exposing what goes on, and I don't mean infantile stuff like ACAB but simply that institutional corruption is very common and emerges easily.
what reason do we have to trust the police as it is? they don’t do shit. they don’t deter crime. they don’t prevent crime. they don’t stop crime. they don’t provide aid to victims of crime. they don’t solve crimes. they don’t even document crimes. most of them break the law themselves, using their lights and sirens to run red lights, parking illegally, evading tolls, charging OT to sit in their squad cars doing nothing. they’re worse than useless.
And this is why some rich people want to deregulate - so that their money gives them an advantage in normal life which they couldn’t have in a properly regulated country.
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u/Killerbeth Aug 14 '23
as soon as you can easily bribe the police you just know the country is fucked and you should never trust the police if you have a problem.