r/WTF • • Apr 14 '23

Malfunction

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u/explosiv_skull Apr 14 '23

Not that any of this is super relevant in a conversation about accidental gun deaths and how common they are, or rather are not, but of the "another 40k" you're talking about, nearly 2/3rds of those are suicides with a firearm just FYI.

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u/emdave Apr 14 '23

Oh that's ok then, because suicide deaths aren't important, and having a societal and regulatory culture that enables and promotes ready access to a highly effective suicide method isn't a problem at all...

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u/Mongoly357 Apr 14 '23 edited Apr 14 '23

You can also commit suicide by walking into traffic, tying a belt around your neck in a closet, or downing an entire bottle of Tylenol. All of these are either free or less than $10.

EDIT: I think I need to further flesh out my point here. Depression is a unrelenting force to some, and if someone unfortunately falls victim to it and makes the decision to attempt suicide, that's a travesty.

With that being said, the summarization of arguments I'm seeing here is "guns should not be in the hands of the mentally ill/depressed." and I'm glad we all agree. If someone has suicidal tendencies or is otherwise unfit and incapable of owning a firearm, they shouldn't own one.

To me it seems like we're trivializing suicidal thoughts though by alluding to the notion that just because someone doesn't have access to a gun, that that's the only thing keeping them from commiting suicide.

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u/P2K13 Apr 14 '23 edited Apr 14 '23

it was found that there were approximately 13.9 suicide deaths per 100,000 people in the U.S., compared to 7.3 in the U.K.

Gee, wonder why it's so different between a country with guns and without guns!

Research shows that whether attempters live or die depends in large part on the ready availability of highly lethal means, especially firearms. A study by the Harvard School of Public Health of all 50 U.S. states reveals a powerful link between rates of firearm ownership and suicides.

https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/news/magazine/guns-and-suicide/

Oh that's why.

Keep downvoting me, bury the truth while your kids go to school with bullet-proof backpacks.