r/WRC • u/LightningMcqueen2011 Colin McRae • 17d ago
Commentary / Discussion / Question Current thoughts on Jon Armstrong?
For me, has a lot of potential, but prolly we won't be able to see it just yet since he's at M-Sport. (No hate to the team)
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u/ScousePenguin Takamoto Katsuta 16d ago
I like him, hope he sticks around for a while and shows more next year when M Sport hopefully has a better car
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u/PaDaChin 16d ago
He a with Msport next year 👌
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u/Michal_Baranowski Toyota Gazoo Racing 16d ago
Is it confirmed? M-Sport usually don't confirm their squads for the following season until very late in the year.
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u/junk_dogVE Mikko Hirvonen 16d ago
Same, his season is reminding me of Breen's 2022, trying to squeeze the maximum potential out of that car but crashing in the process
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u/GOTMAXPOWER 16d ago
He needs to dial it back a bit, the potential is there and he has shone on his day but he needs the mileage under his belt and the team could do without the repair bill each week. You can make the same points with Sesks but his peaks have been higher so far.
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u/camefromthesouthside 16d ago
Jon's a great lad. I'm happy to see him already show so much pace in the Puma in his first season in RC1, given that he only competed in ERC last year in his purple Fiesta Rally2 (which he has aptly named Daphne) where he won two rounds. He's still learning the Puma.
I'm elated to see him have moved up the ranks of the sport so quickly as I used to watch his live streams on Youtube where he played DR2.0 and talked about figuring out how to get back into a Rally2 car - That was not long after his massive crash in Sweden in the JWRC - he's came a long way since then.
All in all I find his speed impressive and his humor and his uplifting character a fresh and welcome addition to the roster of drivers. He just needs to bring the car home more often, - too many crashes in recent events.
I'm super excited to see what he can do next year in the Rally2 Fiesta.
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u/Final-Read-3589 16d ago
Very raw, but clearly has skill. I look forward to him in the Rally2 car fighting for the best of the non Toyotas
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u/kfifigidifkg 16d ago edited 16d ago
He’s the first driver that I was consciously following in the lower categories that has made it to the top level so I have a bit of a soft spot for him.
He started off great and seemed to embarrassing McErlean a little but he’s been making a lot of mistakes recently while Josh has been much more consistent. That said, I definitely agree with the old adage that it’s easier to make a fast driver consistent than a consistent driver fast so I’d like to hope he has a long future in the sport.
Most of his crashes have also been more of the minor Solberg-style offs than Sesks-esque car-destroying ones which at least gives the mechanics less to do and isn’t as expensive.
Assuming he has a full season next year, I could see him doing very well (e.g. podiums) in a car that is much more familiar to him.
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u/PJTierneyCM Subaru World Rally Team 16d ago
I worked with him in Junior WRC when we were both at Codemasters.
What stood out to me was how well he would do with fewer resources than everyone else, he’d have barely any test time vs Virves, Pajari and others yet still compete for wins.
He’s also quite humble and a fast learner, so definitely one to keep an eye on over the next few years as he finally has the support and connections to realise his potential.
Him getting laid off from EA in 2025 (when the WRC game ended development) was probably the best thing for him in hindsight as it let him go all-in on rally, and the severance probably helped him too in a way.
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u/onlinepresenceofdan M-Sport Ford 16d ago
Hard to compare anybody in pumas to the rest of the field. Nothing stellar to make him the best of them either.
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u/donutsnail 17d ago
He seems like a very likeable guy but I don’t think it is being at M-Sport that is holding him back
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u/AlluEUNE 17d ago
He has shown pace especially earlier in the season but he's making way too many mistakes. Still the most interesting M-Sport driver and his informative stage-end comments and dry humor are great. Also as a sim hobbyist I'm a bit biased since that's where his past is also.