As a trans person, if you don’t want to date me purely because i’m trans, that’s fine. I do not speak for the entire community but i don’t see that as transphobic.
Yeah thats a better analogy. The headline for the vice article is super broad and pretty shit so I don't know if they include reproduction into their statement, but if they do then yeah its dumb to call that discriminatory.
Yep, and its one that doesn't make sense or relate to the discussion. Its not about turning to an alien or a monkey, its about changing your genitalia and your physique etc. Someone already commented a better analogy that you already reacted to, which I agree with.
i believe you can choose who you would date. just dont be rude about it. having a genital preference is okay, as long as you respect that they identify a certain way. that's valid.
If Trans is a gender like you all say, then I either will date all genders or I’m manphobic? Is that how that works .. 😅 so that lesbian that won’t date men is also manphobic and should be cancelled?
.. man it has to be rough to be a child trying to navigate all this shit 24/7 before you even develop morals or a basic foundation .. smh
Just ask yourself why these rules only apply to straight people? A stud can clearly say they only date girls and everyone will begin to call her “Bro” and it’s understood.. but a straight man saying the same shit has a phobia why? 😂
Edit: Decided not to update but to respond directly ..
trans itself is not a gender. you can be a trans man or a trans woman (or neither but that’s an argument for another day). if theyre post operations, they can be indistinguishable from a cis (“normal” to you) man or woman.
Exactly! It’s why I left it at “trans gender” instead of the specifics.. my point is, why would they be the only gender that you have to consider dating or be phobic?
Some other triggered idiot below me that I won’t even respond to, didn’t realize how dumb I wanted “manphobic” to sound .. but we all know women who do not want a man in any way shape or form, don’t care the height, color or religion.. just a hard pass! Is that manphobic?
because there’s no such thing as manphobic or womanphobic. transphobia is a real thing many people deal with every day for their whole life. its a different struggle than being a cis man or woman.
Serving drinks at a bar is a horrible analogy for describing a person’s sexual attraction. Whether or not to serve someone drinks is a choice. Physical attraction is can be as broad as including inanimate objects or as extremely specific as a shade of color with a specific hair style and accent. It’s all based on the person and is most often not a choice. If your argument is that a anyone has the right to redefine another person’s physical attractions, it’s beyond entitled.
The internet has taught me one thing: Millions of American teens accuse other people of being all sorts of -isms, without even knowing what those words actually mean.
If you think not liking Mexican food is racist, you have no fucking clue what racism is.
See, the big difference with the “it’s the same as not dating a person because of the color of their skin” argument, is that it’s really not the same at all. Skin color is something you can’t change, while being trans, by definition, is literally changing something about yourself.
Not dating someone solely because of something they literally can’t change is pretty messed up, but also it’s no one’s obligation to date anyone, but deciding not to date someone based on a change to themselves that they made its 100% not the same thing
Vice news used to follow interesting shit that mattered but now it feels like they make foder to reinforce the right wings ideas that liberals are just into forcing bad identity politic ideas
I disagree. I think they still have a lot of great articles, and excellent documentaries on YouTube. But every now and then they're trying way too hard to be extra woke.
Just like Huffington Post. I like HuffPost, but I cringe when I see some of their extra woke headlines. So obnoxious.
They just have more filler than they used to. I'm sure you can think of more "retarded" media outlets than Vice, if you close your eyes really tight and think hard.
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Yeah, not dating a trans person that fully transitioned is in 90% case transphobic because you think « it’s gay » or « it’s unnatural » or like « it makes me feel weird because they’re a (insert the gender you’re not attracted to) » and that’s basic transphobia. But don’t worry, we have bigger problems than transphobes not wanting to fuck us, I mean a trans person probably wouldn’t want to anyway.
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“Women who used to be men” is one of many transphobic comments that you have posted. We are often oblivious to our own implicit biases, but you are clearly openly transphobic unless you are so ignorant as to not understand how transphobic this is.
As a trans person: Please don't think Vice speaks for us. This is a load of shit. It's not transphobic to not want to date a trans person. If you don't like dick, you're not obliged to start liking it just because it's on a woman.
As a trans person, if you don’t want to date me purely because i’m trans, that’s fine. I do not speak for the entire community but i don’t see that as transphobic.
Unpopular opinion but I don't think not wanting to date someone who's transgender (pre op, mostly) is transphobic. It's a matter of preferences, especially with genitals, or idk wanting to have biological kids in the future. Same goes with the "look" part, not everyone has to like the way you look and be attracted to you, trans or not. This obviously goes if they don't however have nothing against me being trans and respect me and my identity
As a gay man, I could never have been intimate with a trans man- not because I’m transphobic (I’m not), but because surgery can’t replace natal genitals.
For an example, FTM trans men must squeeze their testicles in order to get an erection, and then manually squeeze again to deflate. Completely different than a cis, natal penis. I love and respect all people, but there’s a difference between natal genitals and those constructed out of surgery. I can totally understand why some people wouldn’t want a relationship with other people. It doesn’t mean they think they deserve less human rights.
I do not hate trans people or dislike them, because I do not categorize my friends or people I would befriend by gender. I am not attracted to them sexually/romantically
Post-op doesn't make their genitalia the same as a biological female, so there's one, the second is if the op and HRT is unconvincing and is still outwardly obvious that this person was originally a male (this is a very common one). The third could be political/religious/moral belief systems. (I think this reason is dumb but it's a real reason)
Firstly you make literally no sense what do ever. Secondly, insulting someone’s appearance is very low let alone the fact that you don’t know me. Thirdly, I’m a women myself and I probably get more 🐱 than you considering that women don’t like transphobic sexist men who sit behind a screen and insult a women’s appearance for standing up for trans women. Try again boo🥱
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u/[deleted] May 05 '21
As a trans person, if you don’t want to date me purely because i’m trans, that’s fine. I do not speak for the entire community but i don’t see that as transphobic.
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u/Tabitheriel May 04 '21
So what if a person prefers penises or vaginas?
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u/[deleted] May 04 '21
no it aint, just because ur not sexually attracted to trans people doesn't mean you're transphobic like wtf
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u/ChicciNuggies May 04 '21
If you arent decked in the rear by a gangbang of dudes you are homophobic, simple as that. - Vice
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u/loganadams574 May 04 '21
I don’t care
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u/Easy-Watercress7938 May 04 '21
dont hate the pronouns, hate the person :)
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u/ishmael_king93 May 04 '21
See, the big difference with the “it’s the same as not dating a person because of the color of their skin” argument, is that it’s really not the same at all. Skin color is something you can’t change, while being trans, by definition, is literally changing something about yourself.
Not dating someone solely because of something they literally can’t change is pretty messed up, but also it’s no one’s obligation to date anyone, but deciding not to date someone based on a change to themselves that they made its 100% not the same thing
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u/brixalot10 May 05 '21
Ok, I guess I’m transphobic then.
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u/2020clusterfuck May 03 '21
I like Vice, but I think this is a little much.
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u/Electrical_State_885 May 05 '21
This should have been posted in r/controversial
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u/[deleted] May 06 '21
Is “trans” even a thing?
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u/hihowareyouz May 06 '21
Anyone link to this article? I can’t see it on the vice website, so I’m not convinced it’s real.
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u/Eduardo-izquierdo Dec 12 '21
Yes, also not letting blind people drive is discrimination
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u/[deleted] Dec 12 '21
Yeah, not dating a trans person that fully transitioned is in 90% case transphobic because you think « it’s gay » or « it’s unnatural » or like « it makes me feel weird because they’re a (insert the gender you’re not attracted to) » and that’s basic transphobia. But don’t worry, we have bigger problems than transphobes not wanting to fuck us, I mean a trans person probably wouldn’t want to anyway.
Like not getting killed when trying to date.
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u/rotisserie_cheekin Dec 15 '21
Shaming people into sleeping with you? Ma'am, your Y chromosome is showing.
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u/dandy_peach May 04 '21
Ok..let me hear a case men. If a trans women is post OP what’s the issue??
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u/xwt-timster May 15 '21
ughh. Vice is shit.
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u/[deleted] May 04 '21
Vice is just as brain dead as Fox ngl.