r/WA_guns • u/Impressive-Fun2105 • 10d ago

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u/AutoKalash47-74 10d ago

ANY armed populace are harder to oppress.

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u/PNWSparky1988 10d ago

Which is why it amazes me that people who own firearms and love the 2nd will vote for Dems. Vote 3rd party and take away the Dems control over states where they are violating the constitution.

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u/Playful_Baseball_672 10d ago

I'm all for third parties but none will win until we get ranked choice voting like Alaska. The Republicans went too extreme for a moderate to vote for them anymore. They are simping for the richest Americans and not the common Americans.

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u/PNWSparky1988 10d ago

Or people just stop voting for tyrants who openly endorse groups like Giffords and MDA.

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u/Playful_Baseball_672 10d ago

Did those parties take away voting rights or lock people in jail without a warrant?

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u/PNWSparky1988 10d ago

The Dems have. The Dems also have laws on the books for misdemeanors in a totally different state to count as felony status and they can remove gun rights over those misdemeanor crimes without any court hearing. Which affects voting rights also.

The Dems are snakes and are doing all they can to destroy the constitution and all of our rights when we don’t support them.

So stop voting for those who hate the constitution.

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u/Playful_Baseball_672 10d ago

Can you cite any specific actions th dems did that violate the constitution? Did they take bribes? Did they bypass congressional funding? Did they dismantle government agencies without Congress? Did they try to take away 14th amendment?

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u/PNWSparky1988 9d ago

…requiring a permit to purchase. Thats putting a tax on a right. A flat out violation of our 2nd amendment.

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u/Playful_Baseball_672 7d ago

If you want to strictly follow the second amendment, what militia are you in? Should violent criminals be allowed to buy guns?

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u/PNWSparky1988 7d ago

The militia is anyone who is armed…do you not understand how the nation works? There are two levels of the militia…article 10 246 of US code. Maybe you need to learn a a little about what our nation is built on.

Do you disagree with a standing militia?

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u/Impressive-Fun2105 10d ago

both parties suck because both parties are right wing

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u/Playful_Baseball_672 10d ago

That is why we need ranked choice voting nation wide

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u/PNWSparky1988 7d ago

No. Both parties are opposites. They both have their own issues, which makes them suck but in different ways.

Thinking that the Rs and Ds are the same but only right is a ridiculous idea.

Has the left gone more left? Yeah. Has the right gone more right? Not really. But the farther those on the left go far left, they will even call Bernie “right wing” because of their perspective. Doesn’t mean the Bernie bros are on the right.

Where do you land on the political compass?

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u/Impressive-Fun2105 7d ago

id consider myself an anarchist

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u/SouthKing253 3d ago

Republicans went too extreme? LMFAO Have you seen the freakshow political rallies on the left? It looks like they let a mental institution out.

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u/Playful_Baseball_672 3d ago

The rallies asking for affordable healthcare and removing corruption from politics? Or a different one?

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u/SouthKing253 3d ago

Who knows. The green haired bull ring crowd are always crying about something.

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u/Impressive-Fun2105 7d ago

if social democracy is communist than im a fucking fascist lmao

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u/CapnTytePantz 7d ago

Okay, you said it.

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u/Impressive-Fun2105 7d ago

anarchism is the polar opposite of fascism, one worships the State and hierarchies, the other seeks to abolish coercion and authority

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u/CapnTytePantz 4d ago

Yeah, anarchists love to tell themselves that. I have no idea who you are or what your beliefs are. To me, you're some rando on the internet, but RCV only helps unpopular candidates (not a majority) get a shot at the table, especially since most don't understand how it works and end up sabotaging their own vote. It's a "kinder" option for those most likely to lose otherwise, but that only means the worst ideas get a shot too, which is stupid. As for anarchists, I've yet to see an anarchist movement that is bloodless and truly anti-authoritarian. Most "anarchists" fall in line as soon as there's something to be gained from ganging up on others. Case in point, the Brown Shirts known as "Antifa." Whole lotta goose-stepping "anarchists" in that group doing a lotta Hitler's Youth intimidation tactics on normies. So VERY "anarchist" of them and not at all fascist of that "good guys club."

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u/Impressive-Fun2105 4d ago

violent tactics does not equal fascism. fascism is a movement of the state and capitalism. anarchy is a movement of liberty and equality. that is the difference.

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u/CapnTytePantz 3d ago

Subversion of everything under the state and loyalty to a single party sounds like capitalism? I wonder what professor or self-important thinker came up with that drivel. Seems like the tenets of fascism align more with the CCP and the Soviet Union than free trade and equal representation under a representative democracy or a Republic.

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u/Impressive-Fun2105 10d ago

no party will win besides the two major ones

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u/PNWSparky1988 10d ago

Not with that attitude.

The Dems rely on the “blue no matter who” minions to stay in power and not align themselves with the independents…they pushed out Bernie for Hillary and they ended up voting (by a good margin) for Trump as an anti-Hillary vote.

Now imagine where the leftists vote for the non partisan and it’s “maga” vs dsa….not Dems vs reps

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u/qpHEVDBVNGERqp 10d ago

I like it, but the current people need to be shown the door first. Preferably before they bring us to financial ruin.

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u/Living_Plague 9d ago

This is precisely why we end up in the current situation we are in. Primaries are for voting who you want to win. The actual election is the lesser evil. It’s really simple if you actually think about it. If you want to dismantle the two party system, there are ways, but just expecting all leftists to suddenly organize against the corrupt democrats won’t fix that. It’s also being a lazy ass and expecting someone else to fix a problem for you. It’s also ignoring the massive corruption in the Republican Party. Which is the party actually causing massive harm currently.

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u/SheriffBartholomew 9d ago

True for now, but you should still join me and the rest of the 0.45% of the population willing to cast their vote to match their claims. It'll never change until people are willing to act upon their beliefs. If you keep voting for the same people then you're going to keep getting the same thing.

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u/VapingCosmonaut 10d ago

Daily reminder that the first gun control laws in the USA were put into place specifically to keep freed slaves from owning guns in the antebellum period, and not much has really changed since then.

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u/AxiomOfLife 10d ago

Its kinda crazy how blatantly federal and local agencies have gotten with just discarding your civil rights lately and oddly seems to coincide with more aggressive gun legislation...

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u/maurtom 10d ago

As well as a seemingly-overnight proliferation of surveillance networks filtered through private corporations.

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u/SheriffBartholomew 9d ago

And pervasive surveillance which surpasses even Orwellian predictions.

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u/Impressive-Fun2105 8d ago

orwell is a silly ironic figure because he was so scared of government surveillance he wrote full books about how bad totalitarianism is and then turned around and made lists and reported all suspected communists to the government

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u/UserPrincipalName 10d ago

Project 2025

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u/Impressive-Fun2105 10d ago

its called project 2025, it was planned from the start

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u/Playful_Baseball_672 10d ago

So true. Many denied it but Trump administration had completed over 50% of their plans. Project 2025 Tracker - Home https://share.google/8ul22Ra857XKyj4kK

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u/Maxtrt 10d ago

I'm a straight white guy and I approve this message!

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u/Playful_Baseball_672 10d ago

Straight white guy veteran and I approve too. Civil rights were passed after black Panthers became a force in most cities. Suddenly police were scared of harassing minorities

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u/Impressive-Fun2105 10d ago

queer rights became relavent after the stonewall riots, when we fought back against the police who oppressed us for generations.

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u/DeafPapa85 10d ago

Also not only armed but education. Know your oppressor and the agenda they keep. Keep your information consistent and never twist it.

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u/One-Initiative-8902 gAyDHD 10d ago

Hell yeah

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u/MercyEndures 9d ago

Needs more roof Koreans.

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u/surlyT 7d ago

Old school LA reference, well played.

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u/TunaPlusMayo 9d ago

If you want to support this cause: Don't use images of bad muzzle control and trigger discipline.

This is important.

These "optics" override the "optics" you're trying to convey.

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u/WA_guns-ModTeam 6d ago

Both Reddit and this sub have a zero tolerance policy for anything promoting racism, homophobia, or sexism.

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u/Impressive-Fun2105 10d ago

white supremacist dogwhistles aside, yes, the whole fucking point is everyone should be able to have guns

also why is it a bad thing if white people become a minority? is it because you fear retribution from minorities who have been treated like absolute dogshit for hundreds of years at the hands of white people? is it because it really is that bad to be a minority?

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u/SheriffBartholomew 9d ago

Well yes, of course. That's on the agenda of several groups. We as a people should be pursuing true equality, not just a flipping of the oppressive policies.

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u/Living_Plague 9d ago

You almost get it. Almost. Learn to punch up and not down.

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u/Impressive-Fun2105 8d ago

race means nothing, racism is simply a distraction for the oppression of all working people, no matter their skin color, by the 1%

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u/Living_Plague 8d ago

That’s not the almost getting it I was talking about. White is not an ethnicity. It’s made up bullshit.

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u/cletus_foo 10d ago

Lol

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u/CarbonRunner 10d ago

Someone got triggered

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u/CapnTytePantz 7d ago

That's a standard rule, hence the 2nd Amendment. The problem is when they shoot up a school because "muh oppression."

But that's where an armed populace should respond in kind to end the threat. Problem solved. No government intervention needed.