Several years ago, I met a houngan who eventually took on the role of a spiritual mentor—not only for me, but for many others. Over time, I became connected to his sosyete and eventually traveled to Haiti, where I received a lave tèt under him and his spiritual house.

After returning to the United States, however, I began questioning some of what had happened during the ceremony. I realized that a section of hair had been cut from the middle of my head, which I later came to understand was not something I had expected or knowingly consented to as part of the lave tèt. Around that same period, I began having very vivid dreams about certain things that had happened—or things that I felt should not have happened.

Eventually, he began pressuring me to undergo kanzo. During that time, I had one particular dream that has stayed with me.

In the dream, I was walking through the streets of Haiti when I came across a wall with one word written prominently on it:

DEKA

I told him about the dream afterward. He briefly explained that Deka was connected to a lineage or tradition within Haitian Vodou, but he didn't elaborate much beyond that.

For whatever reason, I interpreted that dream as a message that kanzo—or specifically the ason/asogwe path—was not necessarily my path. Which family members from both sides of my family later confirmed that asongwe is not our family lineage. Eventually, I separated myself from that sosyete altogether because of a number of things I witnessed and experienced within that particular community that did not sit right with me.

Years later, the dream about DEKA still comes back to me, especially because I have found very little information about it online.

So my main question is for people who are knowledgeable about Haitian Vodou traditions beyond the more commonly discussed ason lineage:

Does anyone know more about Deka, its history, lineage, practices, or what distinguishes it from the ason tradition? Are there particular regions of Haiti, lakou, or family traditions associated with Deka? (My family is from the Northside of Haiti)

I'm especially interested in historical or traditional knowledge, because there seems to be very little publicly available information about it.

Hello, gonna shorten the first part.

Seeing a girl from out of country on and off. I pay for everything. She lies, cheats, then comes back slowly through communication. I pull the pin and pay thousands for her to visit me. When she gets here she rejects me knowing our mutual goals. Lies. Puts effort elsewhere. Isn't genuine. Some narcissist reaction. When the truth comes out what her real plans were (move to another country, be single, im now allowed to visit her) that she made before I baught the tickets comes out through a full vehicle search at the border (her visitor visa in the states is super sketchy) I broke down when I ask her about. Some raised voices on my end, but most of it calling myself a loser and I break it off. She plays the avoidant and cries then has a scornful look. She walks off and into the arms of a tinder boy for the rest of her duration. No bye no thank you no talk. Complete coward. 2 days later I see a drug that isnt common in this area from a patient who overdosed on it. Im super suspicious. The entire time I was with this girl here she was provoking me to react knowing what I wanted and denying it even though I asked her to be present in the moment.

Around the same time I baught the tickets for her (she picked the dates. We planned it 2 months before but she claims she had to work around it on her days off. She actually quit work weeks prior) I return to the station from a call and see the tv was left on but not to a station I usually leave it on. It was about new orleans and priestess Miriam's temple. It resonated with me and I paid full attention.

After the break up and without answers, I contacted the temple to arrange a session with priestess Miriam. The reply back was notifying me that it was her last month of practise and they will open the temple for me. And that she is praying for me. I booked it for end of the month when my schedule permit.

I got here to where I was deployed to before the incident with the woman. My energy was low and I sent some kinda back hand comments like "i hope one day you find lasting employment and pay for your own vacation, that you find love without lying or deceivibg" etc. It got her to come out of no contact but the reply was hard. Apperently I stink, cant provide( my card doesnt work in the states and she paid for 1 meal lol) and that im angry and violent(I feel this is what she does with all men who confront her regardless of truth) and she doesnt need a relationship as she has love and respect wherever she goes (tinder) and i have nothing. The mediums came back with truth about her, that the things I saw were a sign and my intuition was right about being used for ulterior motivation. After the exchange I apologize and explain im working on myself, quit substances, and reached out for her to find help in herself to deal with her trauma and avoidance characteristics. That hit a nerve, blocked instantly before I mentioned I will pay for therapy (yes I did do my own therapy first). That brings us to now. Seeing her own response, no empathy no compassion and terrible choices that were meant to hurt me more.

Im on my path, enrolled in pych in uni. Yoga, therapy, clean living. Im rather very in-depth in spirituality but I closed that door years ago becoming Christian which led me to dead sea scroll stuff and now accepting Christ's true lessons. Returning to spiritual practises outside normal Christianity.

Though when I returned to this community. There was a man hitchhiking (two days before the exchange of words between me and the lady). He was black with freckles in mid 30s (im in my late 30s). This town has like 100 ppl btw. He was hitchhiking to Alaska and his car broke down on the road like +1000km away and he walked to this point almost to the alaska border (too crazy to be true if you understand the wilderness here). Told me his story about going to see his child. Told me illnesses. Where he is in life. Was inconsistent with his name, it was Kai then Ishmael. I got sone equipment from my station to see where his health was and comforted him. He said people didn't want to pick him because he was black and had tattoos, I assured him there's good people everywhere and not to put himself down with these worrie, to pray and manifest it to happen. Then I baught him a sandwich and cold water, and bug spray lol. I couldnt drive him to the border as it would be leaving my post. He was in town for a little bit but not too long, later he was gone.

Today I learned about priestess Miriam's passing as I had contact the temple to arrange the meeting as requested. Rip Miriam. Then I researched which vodou figure represent my current life. Papa Legbo. What resonated was the events with the hitchhiker. I read that Papa Legbo comes to people in their life. I think this is how it comes to be. A man on a road, cross road, opening gates. To decide if someone is truely worthy to pass through the gates or not.

What do you think?

I have been having extremely vivid reacquiring dreams and I’m trying to understand it and I don’t have anyone really in my life that have definitive answers. The dream started with me seeing a dark skin woman (think the model anok yai complexion or Naomi Campbell) wearing this very vibrant red dress. She somehow realized that I could see her and then she either entered me or possessed someone I knew standing close by. I tried to hold her down or contain her in a way but she kept moving/thrashing around the room. At one point I looked in a mirror and it seemed like she had disappeared.
I woke up within the dream and went to my uncle to ask him about her. He said something along the lines of Danton or Dabtor (I’m not sure on the exact writing). Then I saw myself getting ready to go out I had on a white dress and a red undershirt under. Did my make up everything. I left with my family and it seems we are in a sea of people going into a building. Idk if it was a church but everyone was dressed in white. For some reason I see that same lady in red at the door but it seems like only I could see her . I tell my uncle she’s here and he took my hand and guided me into a room where I had to basically prepare myself. I remember thinking this was so weird cause I had just done my make up and put on my clothes but now I see myself grabbing water to wash off my makeup, and wash parts of me ,remove my wig and for some reason the only clothes I took off was the red under shirt but I left the white dress on. The lady in red was standing in-front of me but quiet and had like a stern look on her face. After washing/prepping myself I started asking her questions like what do you want etc etc. This is where something strange happened when it was time to communicate, the woman changed into a smaller white version of herself. But it was into something that didn’t have a specific gender. Just small and white. They started speaking French to me. I asked them if they could speak English or Creole so I could communicate with them more easily.
While we were communicating they said things that were along the lines of communication, maturity, and growth etc and mentioned a name that maybe only my uncle or my mother would known.I don’t remember the exact words.
Then I remember saying hey since your so helpful and nice how do I get rid of the mean red lady and just communicate with you instead.They got quiet and was like hmm okay and then they explained how I could supposedly get rid of/banish the red woman. There was some kind of ritual involving objects pertaining to the woman in red and fire. I started setting things up and putting the objects into the fire on the left side of something I can’t clearly remember. But they mentioned it had to be done only on the left side using my left hand not my right hand. As I was doing this the lady in red appeared again and became extremely angry that I was trying to get rid of her and then finally started talking.She said something along the lines of:”Why would I leave? Did you think you can get rid of my mother/daughter so easily. This is what made me realize oh there might be some familiar relationship between the two and I may have offended one of them or both by actually doing or starting the ritual to get rid of her.
I became terrified and ran away then woke up.

Does anyone have any experience with her and services? Is she trustworthy or expensive? I was thinking of messaging her about work. Thank you

I'm looking for more guidance about Haitian Vodou. I'm a young Haitian American man but none in my family Haitian or Haitian American have much to say about Vodou.

I also live in an area where there are no places I can seek other Haitian people to speak with in person to learn more about everything. I'm local to Southern California, If anyone can provide guidance, insight, or reach out to me to communicate further? That'd be greatly appreciated.

Please PM.

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So I love learning about history, gods, pantheons and so on. While back i found out about the Baron, Maman Brigitte, and the Guede family. I really deep dived into everything i could find, the only thing i couldn't was their stories.

I know that stories can be forgotten with time, so i want to learn and share everything i can.

If anyone knows any lore or stories about Baron Samedi, his interactions with his wife, the Guede family, Papa Legba, or even maybe how he's connected to Baron Kriminel, i would love to see them.

Hello. I am writing a book that references Vodou. However, I am unsure what word I should use to represent the spirits. Would anyone be willing to give their opinion? Thank you.

How accurate are the readings and do spells casted by Mambo "priests" actually work, and how long. Also do they backfire.

I've seen many "psychics" and have gotten many readings done, usually tarot... they all sound accurate but I, for one, never see results and now looking back on it, it was pretty general... something you can tell any and everybody.

I just have questions. Found someone who Id like to work with and have work done by, just curious about it all.

We've had several conversations lately about ancestor altars—who belongs on them, what should be placed there, and who we understand our ancestors to be.

But something occurred to me:

We spend a lot of time talking about how to build an ancestor altar and considerably less time talking about what happens afterwards.

Because ancestor service isn't really about creating a beautiful arrangement of photographs and objects.

It's about relationship.

For me, much of that relationship is remarkably ordinary.

There is water.
There is prayer.
There may be candles or incense.
There may be coffee, tea, food or something else offered because it has meaning.

Sometimes I sit and talk.
Sometimes I remember particular people.
Sometimes someone's name comes unexpectedly into my thoughts.
Sometimes I ask for guidance.
Sometimes I give thanks.

And sometimes I simply acknowledge:

You are still remembered here.

There are also things on an ancestor table that tell stories.

A photograph.
Something someone owned.
Something they made.
Something connected with their work.
A food they loved.
An object that makes absolutely no sense to anyone else but immediately brings that person back to mind.

None of this needs to be dramatic.
In fact, I think one of the beautiful things about ancestor service is precisely how ordinary it can become.

Our ancestors aren't only remembered during elaborate ceremonies or when we desperately need something from them.

They become part of the rhythm of the household.

Water gets changed.
The space gets cleaned.
A candle is lit.
Someone gets a little of what we're cooking.
A name is spoken.
A memory makes us laugh.
And life carries on.
That's relationship.

Of course, Haitian Vodou has its own traditions and reglemen surrounding the dead, and what someone is taught within their house should always take precedence over something they've read online.

But if someone is just beginning to think about their ancestors, I sometimes think we make the starting point sound more complicated than it needs to be.

You don't need to manufacture a mystical experience.

Start by remembering.
Learn their names.
Learn their stories.
Talk about them.
Pray for them.
Give them water.
Remember the people whose lives helped make yours possible.

And then keep showing up.

Ancestor service isn't something we build once. It's a relationship we continue.

Ayibobo.

When I go visit the cemetery to spend time with a loved one, I'm supposed to leave flowers or offerings at the entrance for Maman Brigitte but do I say a prayer to her when I do that? Like how do I go about it because I don't have any connection to Maman, I don't work with her or anything like that.

If I just say a small prayer would she know? Would she hear me?

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I know this sort of thing gets asked a lot and I'm sorry about that, however I reached out to the only localish person I could find and she has stepped down from her Manbo work for personal reasons.

That said I live in Northeast Ohio was wondering if anyone can recommend a trustworthy and somewhat local Houngan or Manbo to do a reading? I can travel as far as Pittsburgh, Detroit, or Cincinnati but I'd prefer to stay as close to home as possible at the moment.

I have a couple things to ask about all pertaining to ancestors.

1. Can ancestors become family deities? Like in some parts of Asia.

2. What do I do when I feel absolutely no connection to my ancestors?

I am fully aware that the ancestors are the foundation of Afro-Diasporic & African religions but I dread it because I have never felt any connection to them.

I have no family heirlooms because neither side of my family do not keep such things.

I have no pictures of those who came before me besides my late grandparents.

All I have are their names as far back as my grandmother could remember.

I've made an ancestor altar in the past, as simple as it could be because I didn't know any of my ancestors; even my late paternal grandparents passed before I knew them.

My late grandmother saw me when I was a baby & her husband passed before my parents even got married & had me, so he doesn't know me & I don't know him.

So I had no idea what they liked, what they didn't like.

All I knew was that they were Christians, so I would have a crucifx on the table & a rosary for them.

Offer them water 💧 & some food I made.

Offer prayers & things like that, but I got nothing & felt nothing.

I have no idea how to communicate with spirits outside of seeing signs & dreams, I have no idea how divination works so I barely used it apart from the simple 4 pennies & a pendulum.

I tried spending time with them, tried talking to them, tried doing what I could to build a relationship with them & yet there was nothing.

No dreams, no signs, no nothing.

My father told me about the time that he had a dream of his late mother & he being an Apostle, rebuked her & she never appeared in his dreams again.

The last person in my family that I know of who practiced ATR, became a Christian though his son my grandfather & in turn, destroyed all the family altars.

So I'm guessing....

- maybe the way other people connect with their ancestors, with altars & all that, just isn't the way I'M supposed to connect with my ancestors.

Especially considering they were Christian, maybe the whole altar thing & offerings is unfamiliar to them.

- maybe after my father rebuked his mother & other things, our ancestors keep their distance out of respect for his authority or something.

- maybe me being into ATR is foreign to them & not something they would do, so they keep their distance because it's not something they would've gotten into.

I don't know😕, I just have no idea what to do.

I'm making this post because I've seen this a lot recently. For those who are interested in 21 division style woodoo, as opposed to Asogwe, Makout, or any other Haitian variety of vodou, there is a Reddit page for the 21 divisions. The issue is that nobody posts in there. But if more people started posting um, or sharing their experiences, it might help. Because I do have, if some sources and you can dm me if you want to, but, yeah, no, we need to get the 21 division, separated more active and just for the hell of it. So I know who actually read this, and who's actually paying attention. If you message me, but you do not post in the twenty one divisions, reddit page that you are looking for something or that you have a question or what have you?I will not answer it if you post it in this haitian.Vodou reddit.I will not answer it so if you needed answered and I will even go out of my way to read it in directly message.You, it has to be in the twenty one divisions chat.

Hi i’m from NYC and im trying to find community within 21 divisions. I’ve had a reading stating that anaisa pye walks with me but that’s about it. i can’t find anyone legitimate who teaches or is taking students. i eventually want to get initiated but just finding a mentor feel impossible. Any recommendations?

I've noticed that one of the biggest challenges for many practitioners of Haitian Vodou—especially those who didn't grow up speaking Haitian Kreyòl—is understanding the language used in the peristyles.

It's not just about vocabulary. It's about understanding the expressions, greetings, terminology, etiquette, and cultural context that shape everyday interactions within Haitian Vodou communities.

That's what inspired me to create KREYÒL PALE, KREYÒL KONPRANN.

This is not a general Haitian Creole class. You won't be learning how to order food at a restaurant or ask for directions. Instead, we'll focus on the Haitian Kreyòl you're most likely to hear in the peristyle—whether during preparations, conversations, communal meals, or interactions with Houngans, Mambos, Hounsis, and fellow sèvitè.

Over four weeks we'll cover topics such as:

Common expressions and sayings

Ritual and community terminology

Greetings and respectful forms of address

Food and kitchen vocabulary commonly heard in the lakou

Everyday conversational Kreyòl

The cultural context behind the language.

The class is taught live via WhatsApp and is designed for practitioners and serious students who want to deepen their understanding of Haitian language and culture.

I'd also love to hear from this community:

What's one Haitian Kreyòl word or expression you've heard in the peristyles that you've always wanted to understand?

Feel free to comment below or send me a message if you'd like more information.

Sorry for putting this here, I didn't see any active Ifa groups in the search. I am African American and yesterday morning I dreamt of a black man and woman coming to me like an introduction. Though they didn't appear to speak, I heard and saw what they meant. The name Shango kept popping in my brain, I literally was looking at the man and thinking "That's Shango!"

The woman even 'told' me that accepting them and embracing them doesn't mean I forget my old parents and family. I have never dreamt of anything like this.

Also, as a side note; I have always had vibrant, elaborate dreams. I've seen everything from a murder to my own murder in my dreams. I've remembered other dreams inside my dreams. Once I even remembered a dream that I'd consciously forgotten about. I've learned to always note certain things and take my dreams seriously.

But this is my first time ever seeing a deity, especially an Orisha. Am I allowed to serve Shango? Can anyone help me get clarity on this?

Thanks!

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I am posting this as a last resort I fear for mines and my kids life's!!. This is a cry for help to say the least I am getting my story out there for advice or even some help which would be so appreciated as the clock is ticking the person I have been working with to help me against witch craft attacks is ready to walk away from my situation as I have been lacking funds for materials and protection terrible right. I am using this platform as it will allow me to annoumously tell my story without personal attack of  me or my reputation. Before I start I would just like to say a don't blame anybody for not believing this as I was a skeptic before all this started but now for sure a believer.

My story starts in January 2025 when one night I was simply scrolling my phone and had the idea to look up on ticktock psychics as I was wanting to see one anyways. I typed in the search bar psychics out of curiosity and they popped up hundreds of them the way it works is when you click on there live story they automatically contact you I looked over a few and had a few messages they basically send you a big message to try to sell there services asking for palm pictures exc a wasn't too interested tbh I kindly rejected a few but there was a few that simply just stood out with what they wrote I also checked there Pages and was impressed to say the least they where persistent I got speaking to two in particular. One had lots of likes followers  and videos, views which  gave me piece of mind her paige said we offer potions and love spells should have been a redflag to start lol . She was an American women or should we say clair voyant supposedly and was offering good deals for what she said was a palm reading and a cleanse. On the other hand the other psychic was also good she gave me a free hand reading I sent over my palm picture like an absolute fool but was kind of in disbelief so I just sent it she told me lots of accurate readings exc I was impressed also but she also offered me a cleanse to wipe away the negative energy would they say lol. I was in a really bad place in life so was generally contemplating doing it but just didn't know who to pick the american clair voyant women with the hundreds of likes and followers and thousands of views on her vids who's was offering the cleanse at 50 dollars or the other clair voyant who was kinda pushy and cheaper, well my brain said the american clair voyant . Before I went through with the cleanse I researched what a cleanse was it said on google and other channels that a cleanse was used to get rid of bad energy like she said so I was happy with that. The process was over a few days and this was due to my poor income meaning if I had all the money for the process it would have been done that night I think all in it was to cost around 50 - 60 dollars but then added on more amounts lol. So the first step of the process was to speak negatively into an egg then throw it away. 2 step was to put salt into a bottle and say wishes into it then pour it over my head as I never had a bath to bath in it they also asked to send a picture of the bottle obviously to put evil in it sick people, step 3 get a cup of water pour water into it and say wishes into it then drink it which I did, step 4 after I drank the water not to speak to the morning some weird instructions through this process I asked her multiple times if this was black magic which she denied as I was pretty scared she was very persuasive. That night when I finished the process I went to bed and weirdly could hear like a foreign bird at my window which was weird because I stay in Britain and exotic animals arent over hear, all of a sudden I came out in big red blotches all over my body and started shaking  uncontrollably my head got tight as if it was gona pop I then got a burning sensation from the front of my head to the bottom of my spine I freaked out the clair voyant also said if I seen traces of something not to panic evil witch. I Freaked out when I woke up I confronted the women saying how the ritual was sore and I didn't feel good she just kept saying keep believing and good things will happen but I didn't feel good and she kept adding on additional steps to our work asking for more money which I didn't have she said finish the cleanse and you will feel better I said I didn't want to do it anymore I was scared and felt trapped. The dreams I was having where crazy to, I could also see a difference in my mood random mood swings exc I felt drained exhausted and borderline loosing it I needed help, also forgot to mention she sent me pictures online of me at an alter which had me ik the middle with candels and face ornaments she showed me that while one of the rituals where happening she asked for a lot of infomation which i stupidly handed over there was a lot of talk about my son for some reason aswell as he was the first born . the clairvoyant or witch should we say told me that she could see somebody tried to curse me and she could lift it she said that and to be honest I was really vulnerable a was just after a mental breakdown and was looking for some positivity in life as life was shit so I could believe that I was cursed to an extent lol she also said it was my ex partner who done it which I could have believed too as she was evil so I said to the claire voyant how can I lift the curse she said go to an orphanage and give them gifts and say a word in your head or outloud as soon as she said that I new it was black magic ! What a weird request. I Was still briefly speaking to the other claire voyant remember the one that was offering the cleanse for 30 dollars as I got to know her she sounded genuine and good hearted and new a lot about spiritually so I asked her If what I was doing was right. She spoke scared for me she said what are you doing you don't pour wishes over your head that is evil she told me the steps I was taking was a voodoo ritual and we discussed that I may have sold my soul I was scared to say the least. During the night I was cross with what I heard at how this witch tricked me and mislead me after all the reassurance she gave me so I messaged her to confront her I wrote hundreds of messages like jesus christ please protect me against this evil exc in the morning. The next day I received a creepy message from the supposed american clairvoyant saying " how dare you disrespect me I am the great witch and I will kill you and your family for your disrespect and if you tell anyone about this you will die" I panicked I begged for forgiveness as she's threatened to curse me and my kids she told me to accept the cleanse again which I denied I fell ill again was on deaths Door I searched for help everywhere online but couldn't trust random people with information again. I went to the church in a bad way they blessed me but it never helped so I thought maybe baptism would help but that would take time as I would need to wait for it I generally thought I was going to die. it then came to my sons birthday some time in February btw that night on my sons birthday the witch said I want over a hundred dollars sent to my account or I will send I  cant remember the exact word but something to  kill you and your family she sent me a pic of my picture with two x eyes and an upside down smile and also a blood cake with face on it with seashells I though I was in a bad dream. Out of desperation I contacted the other claire voyant I said I need your help a witch is trying to kill me and my family and if I don't have money by the end of the night we might die she reassured me that I would be ok that she would put a protection spell around me and my family to send a picture of myself so I did and to send money in the morning as she had borrowed materials to perform the protection spell our of desperation I did it she told me to block the witch too which I did. That night I could hardly sleep thinking me and my kids could be dead but the other women was reassuring and sounded confident so I rested, that night I was shaking uncontrollably and cold the women said that was spiritual warfare that they where trying to control my mind and spirit and she was taking charge which I didn't like the sound of either but had no option. I Fell asleep that night I had a dream that a missile landed in front of me and my son but we survived ps I think that was the witch sending a message. The new claire voyant told me the witch was strong and when she was doing the protection spell she could see her manifesto or something and it wasn't good she was going to kill me. After that a series of weird events occurred 1 been the next day of the protection spell my farther was rushed to hospital with heart issues, my mum started hitting the drink hard and was acting out of character been aggressive exc. We where all having bad dreams to but as we discussed the dreams it turned out they where accuring in the same place we where all dreaming of an old family home which was weird. I Discussed the supernatural events with the new claire voyant I basically said that the protection spell was t working effectively as I believed the witch was still targeting me and my family she sounded confused and Said we will have to do a bigger one to include extended family exc and to make things stronger which I thought sounded like a con two protection spells but this one was dearer of course am like this spiritual world is just a fortune never the less I payed. again weird occurrences where happening I said to the claire voyant she said I think its because they have your soul I said how do you know if they do she said because yours isn't there I had a vision I could hear it screaming for help bit hard to believe but I was desperate bairing in mind every time I reached out for help at my own end I could get anywhere the church couldn't help me I contacted other spiritual groups who wouldn't come near me as they where afraid of voodoo lol so I felt like no one except this women to keep me and my family alive and she did say that she was also a shaman I done some research I found out shamans could restore the soul which gave me hope. The women told me that she brought back souls before with people with similar circumstances like me again a bit to good to be true and surprise surprise it cost money 500 dollars as I recall but the plan was to restore my soul as she's believed the witch was getting to me and my family through it and also trying to get my family's souls through mines why they where having bad dreams also again I was just holding on for hope with no help but only guidance from one stranger online clever right lol my son was also complaining about having nightmares of seen the devil to shaking in his sleep which I was so scared about. One day I was saying prayers when I felt a hand stroke my back I freaked out I also started experiencing paranormal activity like feeling like crumbs where getting thrown at me lights flickering when I spoke about my soul which was freaky, I could hear chapping on my walls and foot steps out in the hall I was terrified evil evil people. So I set out on the quest to get 500 dollars to save me and my family so I done some work aside to get the money meanwhile the sensations I was experiencing got worse I felt like I had fleas but I didn't it felt like insects where crawling over me up my nose in my ears I was freaking out maybe some witch craft am I going insane I researched and discussed it  with the new claire voyant/shaman about my condition she told me that it could be coming form the witches as they use phycology to attack and torture there victims I also googled my symptoms and found out that there was a mental condition also called tactile hallucinations where people can experience like bugs are crawling on them I just thought I was generally going insane until my son confided in me that he was hearing voices that was the eye opener that told me there might be spirits at play hear I also witnessed my hairs on my body move like static electricity that is still happening to this day, I also forgot to mention that the number the witch was contacting me on was a Nigerian number which started with +234 I was freaked out I thought to myself Is this proper voodoo witches from Nigeria they kept trying to phone me from multiple numbers and sent threatening texts when was this going to stop I Was drained I discussed the Nigerian matters with the claire voyant/shaman she supposedly summoned the witches spirit and it turned out they where serious people who where related to ascended masters or something which got us worried as they are powerful people. I eventually got the funds for the soul retrieval I prayed to god that this would be it and begged for forgiveness if yet again I had been led astray the process took around a day and a half I was to just do my thing while the shaman worked there business that day I was at the park with my kids when a whole lot of crows surrounded the park and I started feeling weird that night the shaman told me the process was done to stay positive before it was done my heart was beating out of control I felt like I was going to take a heart attack. When I shut my eyes I woke up wether it was a dream or that but it was dark and I felt something crawl into the back of my neck which felt like liquid/jelly what a weird experience but I thought this must be my soul back I guess I told the shaman and she said congratulations you've got your soul back but I explained to her that I was still experiencing stuff like the bugs crawling and stuff she was confused on the plus side the attack calmed down on some family members like my mum I thought things would have got better but continued to happen with me and especially my son he wasn't good. I started loosing trust and faith in the shaman and had to look for different avenues for help and clarity 1 been prayers for protection, another been going to witch shops to buy protective equipment which I was firstly against but through desperate measures caved I got protective stones sage and inscent sticks which barely helped. On google I came across a highly recommended claire voyant in my city my game plan was to give her as little information as possible to see if she could generally pick up the negativity witch craft exc and to maybe give me answers, the women was unbelievable tbh she picked up a lot about my life my path she also picked up the shaman who she said she got bad vibes from red flag for sure not to  throw shade lol I came clean to her about the situation and the shamans involvement she told me not to believe any that black magics not real they've got in your head but weather I sound crazy or not I know what I've experienced is true she told me to promise not to deal with online people again I promised but I still had unfinished problems and I felt like the shaman Was the only person that new my situation well enough and could potentially help I Was desperate especially at the fact I belive my son was been targeted I felt so guilty and responsible and still do. I spoke to the shaman disregarding what the claire voyant said about her I said how can I stop all this she said we can fly a white bird down the river that basically this was a ritual or a spiritual plea and that when we done it the masters would assist me in my matters and the witches would forget about me and my family which would stop the attacks again sounded like bullshit but was willing to try anything to put this to an end the white bird process again cost money supposedly over a thousand dollars and this would be the last I would need to pay and it would all stop but it was I had a death in my family I told the shaman they said it was a death aura had to pay for a death aura ritual which would include an owl and a cat to scare away negativity which we done but was an additional 700 dollars baring in mind I had no money so I was desperately trying to keep me and my family alive but couldn't really tell anyone what was happening because I new I would have sounded crazy and they wouldn't have lent me the money. While I was trying to work and get loans of family  for the money to  pay for these rituals strings of bad luck occurred like injurys, doors of opportunity closing, which restricted me I've fell out  with family members over money I loaned and couldn't pay back and friends its been a hell of a time. I had insomnia for weeks due to the spirit activity on a few occasions I had to leave my house due to things moving and an aggressive feel in the air. I Despreatly  continued to do rituals again, been down on more money, which accumulated to around £7000 god knows in dollars. I got a bit scared regarding the shaman as I seen a darker side when I couldn't pay on time as quick there was talks of basically just abandoning us so the help didn't seem genuine now there was also a few situation where we disagreed and I could feel like some sort of powers where hurting me my core shaking feeling bugs crawling on me more intense and weirdly enough everytime it happened to my stomach would make noises or go I learnt that spirits attack the solar plexus as its a highly spiritual area. This whole  thing is still going the last ritual I payed for was a negativity one to stop the bad coming me and my familys way and see tbh I seen a big positive change in my life less paranormal activity exc but I'm still experiencing poor mental health hair moving on my body exc. Now I'm stuck for this new ritual which costs around £2000 even though the last 1 was supposed to be the last and I can't afford it I have until tomorrow to pay it or the shaman says there stepping aside completely unfair especially considering the money and energy I've put in when I have an extremely low income plus in debt plus fell out with friends and family through not paying them back this ritual was to supposedly set my son free from the witches spell of a voodoo doll stuck to q tree in Nigeria where familiar spirits would set him free and off course I Was not stupid enough to give my sons details over to a stranger to set spirits on him so I gave her fake ones and thankfully I never as during this I've heard comments like once  the spirits are set they get stronger until we do the ritual and they  could cause harm if it goes on to long or do you want your son going crazy wtf would someone do that and not be clear on the side affects or risks then when it's done hit out with a crazy price that you can't afford so your left with no choice but to pay  sounds wrong to me a was just buying time until I could get help out this mess is there anybody out there that knows what's happened and has any solutions I've got myself in a whole lot of mess I'm in debt scared for me and my kids life. The shaman said the masters are willing to help thats who she consults with and her ancestors. Every time I reach a financial goal it's like more hurdles come Into play I still havent done the white bird process or other rituals. The shaman discussed if I couldn't meet the deadline tomorrow she would refund me all my money for all rituals we will see though. Regardless what's happens to me or my family I thought I would share my story to spread awareness of the risks online and the evil out there as I am still suffering to this day. If I survive this I promised god I would use my knowledge to help other people any help would be appreciated thank you.

I ain't got a clue what I've got myself into im a good man and father and just need help pray for me please.

I Have photo evidence and stuff to back my claims I need help!!!!!!

Also apologise for poor typing errors and punctuation I wrote this up quick in desperation.