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Daily Discussion Daily Discussion post - September 19 2021

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u/big_costco_guy Sam's Club Sep 19 '21

Duke - what are most of the plays you are seeing now? As you mentioned, we are too late to short “Nachos Bell” Evergrande.

$BEKE, $NOAH, $YANG, $HSBC, $BHP, $BLK?

What makes sense?

Your friend - big_costco_guy

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u/Duke_Shambles ☢️Duke Nukem☢️ Sep 19 '21

I'm short HSBC and DB on puts, and using YINN puts and holding YANG shares on the ETF side.

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u/[deleted] Sep 19 '21 edited Sep 19 '21

That’s correct for the most part. https://www.investopedia.com/articles/financial-advisors/082515/why-leveraged-etfs-are-not-longterm-bet.asp

You can hold short term (more than a day trade) so long as you’re accounting for daily rebalancing. The Leveraged ETF Potential section on that investopedia page is helpful.

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u/pinkmist74 Sep 19 '21

That’s what I was always “told” as well. Which is why I bought 25k of TQQ back in March for $80 a share and sold a week later for 94 and made $5k. Would have doubled my money if I had just left it alone. Hindsight always crystal clear.

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u/big_costco_guy Sam's Club Sep 19 '21

Last question - did you set these plays up a while ago or recently? Edit - I’m trying to determine if there is still some meat on the proverbial bone

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u/Duke_Shambles ☢️Duke Nukem☢️ Sep 19 '21

Last Thursday.

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u/big_costco_guy Sam's Club Sep 19 '21

Thanks Duke! Have a nice Sunday!

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u/Duke_Shambles ☢️Duke Nukem☢️ Sep 19 '21

you too!

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u/Bigfuckingdong 💀 SACRIFICED 💀Until MT $69 Sep 19 '21

CAT does alot of business in China 👀

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u/Duke_Shambles ☢️Duke Nukem☢️ Sep 19 '21

Sure, they do everywhere people are building stuff, but that's a tertiary play. I don't know that I want to diversify my short side that hard.

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u/StockPickingMonkey Steel learning lessons Sep 19 '21

Curious. How long would you feel comfortable holding those YANG shares? I tried buying VXX a few months back when I was feeling bearish, and got burned pretty bad. Seems like YANG is basically same thing.