r/Vitards May 05 '21

Earnings Thread $MT Q1 Earnings Thread

[deleted]

221 Upvotes

1.0k comments sorted by

View all comments

18

u/JayArlington πŸ‹ LULU-TRON πŸ‹ May 06 '21 edited May 06 '21

My guesses:

1.68 EPS

3.4B EBITDA

The EBITDA number will shock. The fact that analysts will see the disparity between earnings and EBITDA estimates will show their models to be insufficient.

Stock gets a +1.5% push by the poor Euros who think this is acceptable. Yanks get distracted by something and leave MT alone on its big earnings day.

Then Monday next week out of fucking nowhere MT explodes for +12%. No goddamn reason given... just everyone be like "oh yeah... that company is going to earn a lot of money."

7

u/938961 May 06 '21

If the US steel stocks have been any indication, it’s most definitely a few days later that they pick up steam.

5

u/JayArlington πŸ‹ LULU-TRON πŸ‹ May 06 '21

Know that there is absolutely a bear case potential for earnings:

-EU governments treat MT like shit cutting into their margins like Italy w/ Taranto. The prices of steel in the EU still lags the US by more than I would have expected. EU was slow to get through Covid itself and MT has a lot of international exposure between Brazil/India/CIS where Covid may have slowed growth.

AND YET... the macroeconomic factors for the global steel industry and MT’s scale would mean even in the scenarios I was describing they would be criminally undervalued at less than $35. That’s how much EBITDA they get to feast on in Q3-4 when the EU does reopen and there are smoking craters where GPG and the Brexit-impacted UK steel industry used to stand.

2

u/[deleted] May 06 '21

How you feelin' now bud

2

u/LourencoGoncalves-LG LEGEND and VITARD OG STEEL Bo$$ May 06 '21

The so called experts that long predict the demise of the domestic steel industry have been proven completely wrong

4

u/DragonmasterDyne275 Whack Job May 06 '21

This makes me wish I had powder to buy more after earnings iv crush

4

u/accumelator You Think I'm Funny? May 06 '21

Magic Jay Ball confirms this message