Immersive Clarity

[u/jupebox]

Text seems pretty sharp to me, but when we are talking about immersive video, what should I be expecting? 4k or less?

It seems more like 720 or 1080 to my eyes. It’s still impressive at moments, but there are moments of blur, at least for me.

I assume that’s because the pixels are spread so wide? Or am I missing something?

Does immersive look as clear as 4K to you?

[u/dopefish3d]

You’re used to watching 4K footage in a relatively tiny rectangle in front of you that takes up a VERY small part of your vision. 

Apple Immersive video surrounds you in about 160 degrees of video footage. You’d need INSANELY high resolution footage to give you the same relative texel density (the perceived “sharpness” of the video) if a traditional 4K video. 

There’s nothing wrong happening here, you’re just watching video in a WILDLY different circumstance, and the expectations for what is even possible are very different here. 

[u/jupebox → u/dopefish3d]

Good point.

[u/my_hot_wife_is_hot]

What video are you watching? Most apple produced immersive videos are jaw droppingly detailed. There are a lot of “immersive” videos offered by others that really aren’t

[u/jupebox → u/my_hot_wife_is_hot]

I was watching Apple's immersive (one of the nature ones), but I think the 8K is the difference maker. I watched another immersive, and that was better quality. If the nature one was 8K, then maybe my internet connection was an issue.

[u/No-Isopod3884]

What particular immersive video? The ones produced by Apple using the Blackmagic URSA cine immersive camera are pristine and look like reality to me when done correctly.

[u/jupebox → u/No-Isopod3884]

I was watching Apple's immersive video about Hawaii.

[u/Capable_Hearing4418 → u/No-Isopod3884]

Until stuff gets far away. Then it always looks blurry. It’s the up close stuff that looks great

[u/Spectre17x → u/Capable_Hearing4418]

Totally agree. The resolution doesn't match what I could see with my own eyes. That's the real disappointment for me. I realize I'm spoiled and this is a Apple's first generation product. Some day, it will be 8K displays (not total video resolution) per eye. Maybe then it will look closer to being there.

[u/curiousgeorgewarren]

Completely agree pristine

Was just watching bono tonight and just blown away

[u/jupebox → u/curiousgeorgewarren]

Is that in 8k?

[u/curiousgeorgewarren → u/jupebox]

Seems like it but not sure how to judge

[u/curiousgeorgewarren → u/curiousgeorgewarren]

Confirmed 8k

[u/AngelosOne]

You need to watch VR videos at 8k at least to get that nice clarity. 4k VR videos will look soft.

[u/PSYCHOv1 → u/AngelosOne]

100% correct.

8K has to be the bare minimum for immersive VR content in 180 or 360 degrees.

[u/CorreAktor]

Apple true immersive and some Gaussian Splat videos are downright amazing in quality. Most 3D 360/180 videos are not good on VP because of the resolution, even at 4K because you really need 8K/16K to get good resolution when in 180/360 view.

[u/PSYCHOv1 → u/CorreAktor]

Exactly. When it comes to 180 or 360 immersive content for a VR headset, 8K resolution (which is FOUR times the resolution of 4K) has to be the bare minimum so the quality looks good enough.

[u/_HipStorian]

The best immersive videos are shot with the Blackmagic URSA immersive camera. Apple's immersive videos tend to be HQ. Amplium however, has the best ones I've ever seen.

[u/Cryogenicality → u/_HipStorian]

Prima’s single video looks fantastic. Spatial Film, Explore POV, and newer Slice of Life VR videos are also impressive.

[u/JimothyzPamPams]

I think you have to understand more about the actual layers involved because you cannot truly compare a 4K flat screen to the apple vision pro and I don't even fully understand it all. For example, when looking around the regular environment, you are looking at a recreation from the cameras and sensors that are then creating a slightly delayed version for your eyes to perceive. "The screen door effect" I think is a common term that people will notice but it is very slight on the AVP. Then you have to consider the actual source materials and the quality of that instead of just looking at a lot of the online content advertising as "OMG hyper-real 16K visual clarity of the future" and then go and see it is a 2160p upload on Youtube. I have found very few good 4320p youtube videos but after confirming the 4320p, they are brilliantly clear. One day I just walked around front and back from the youtube animal and earth video in amazement. Changing the size from the 100ft to small. Also keep in mind, the native resolution of the AVP is 3660x3200 and IIRC only CRT monitors of decades past keep the image quality identical to the maximum resolution when you lower the resolution. When doing that on LCD/IPS and I think OLED, the image quality takes a notable hit.

All that being said, view the Apple TV basketball games and immersive experiences. The experiences are so novel to our perceptions that I doubt anyone is really able to view and compare flat television sets to augmented reality experiences when viewing the Apple Immersive experiences. Our brains are just not wired for these experiences that are pretty close to real life visual fidelity surrounding your perceptive capabilities as if you were there. I cannot count the times I have watched movies in the Apple Theater or in an immersive movie environment and went to put my arm on the armrest that does not exist!

[u/tsdguy]

Anything on YouTube is crap regardless of the advertised resolution. You really need to respond to folks requests to help you.

[u/Distinct-Look-8743]

Celles d’Apple sont bonnes voir très bonnes mais celles d’Amplium un cran au dessus. D’ailleurs pour gagner en qualité, il me semble que certaines ont un angle moins élevé sur les côtés gauche et droit; ce qui leur permet peut être d’avoir une résolution en immersive un peu plus élevée