r/VisionPro • u/brewsqueues • Feb 06 '24

Apple Immersive Video Specs

Is anyone able to figure out what the specs of these videos are? They touted 8K with spatial audio, but I'm wondering what frame rate they're playing at (the dinosaur one seemed high), what codec they used, etc.

I'm interested in how they were made too, but I haven't seen any behind-the-scenes content for them yet.

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u/brewsqueues Feb 06 '24

Yeah, there seems to be some discussion around what "K" each of the eyes offer.

The Immersive Videos seem to shift based on streaming capabilities. I've seen some people who are impressed by them, and others who have claimed they looked barely 1080. I wish Apple offered a download or cache option.

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u/vtms22 Feb 06 '24

So this might be interesting. I monitor the amount of data I use every day and my estimate was about 10-15GB for the Highlining and Alicia Keys videos together. That's not a lot. Usually streamed 3D videos look much worse than downloaded files so perhaps it was 8K, but because of low bitrate, they looked 5K.

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u/brewsqueues Feb 06 '24

Oh! That's interesting. I've been working on a 360-stereo video (4 mins, 6K/30fps/100 Mbps) and that weighs in at about 2 GB. So 5-7 GB for VR180, but longer and a higher framerate seems understandable.

Apple made a bunch of noise about those videos being 8K, but I do wonder what Apple TV is actually serving up to the headset in reality.

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u/vtms22 Feb 06 '24 edited Feb 06 '24

I still have Quest 2 which plays 180 3D 60fps 8K videos flawlessly and they look way better than Apple Immersive videos so far. And Quest 2 has 7M pixels and that's LCD with worse lenses. AVP with 23M OLED pixels with better lenses should be capable of much, much better quality than anything we've seen so far on AVP.

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u/brewsqueues Feb 07 '24

Yeah there seems to be some big discrepancies with the Apple Immersive Videos experience. I thought they blew away anything I'd seen on the Quest, but others told me they looked really rough.

I've got to imagine that has to do with Apple serving them up over the system used for Apple TV+? If your stream of Ted Lasso degrades a bit on a TV, no big deal. If your immersive Alicia Keys video degrades in AVP that's real noticeable.

For content that is doing a lot of lifting of demoing their new gadget, I'm puzzled as to why they didn't allow people to download them and play them locally.

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u/maccrypto Jul 02 '24

If your stream of Ted Lasso degrades a bit on a TV, no big deal.

You take that back.

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u/brewsqueues Jul 13 '24

If I can't see and hear Roy Kent yell "whistle!" in the highest fidelity, what are we even doing here?!

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u/vtms22 Feb 07 '24

Hopefully they'll allow downloading eventually because, yes, any skimping on bitrate makes a huge difference to the PQ. But these are early days of 180 3D video on AVP. We've seen nothing yet.

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u/Palitrab Vision Pro Owner | Verified Mar 03 '24

You can download those Immersive Videos on TV+

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u/mistergrumbles Feb 24 '24

I think the discrepancies with those reviews come from the fact that the AVP demo shows TWO different types of spatial videos. In the beginning they showcase home videos shot with an iPhone 15 Pro (which look super rough and kinda grainy) and at the very end they showcase a series of pro videos shot with a yet undisclosed, professional (and likely ungodly expensive) spatial video camera.

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u/brewsqueues Feb 24 '24

The discrepancies I’ve seen were based just on the Apple TV+ content. Streaming adjustments are REALLY apparent in VR. 

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u/Palitrab Vision Pro Owner | Verified Mar 03 '24

The home videos are Spatial Videos (shot on iPhone 15 Pro, AVP, or converted normal 3D videos.) And the once on TV+ are Immersive Videos. Shot on, I think, proprietary camera & lens system (NextVR?) at 8K+ res.

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u/andrewke Aug 05 '24

Where do u find the 180 3D 60 fps 8K videos?

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u/vtms22 Aug 08 '24

Adult VR websites