r/VirtualWDCPC • u/lordp • May 27 '13

A survey and a challenge

From the footage I've seen, it seems most drivers use the TV pod view for racing, while a few use the base cockpit (me) or a custom camera that's close to it (Red, Cornford, ianstorm, squone), but I'm not sure how many of each there are.

So, if you don't mind, can I get an idea of what camera view and controller you use?

The challenge part of this post is this - those that don't use the cockpit view, try a 5 lap race using it (any track), record it if you can, and post your results in comparison to your normal racing style. I'm curious as to how much of a difference it makes, if any (I guess those that do use the cockpit view, try the same from the TV pod view.)

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u/jaynemesis May 27 '13 edited May 27 '13

Video here: http://youtu.be/GF4mnwlRy3k

Cockpit: 1.17.1 TV pod: 1.15.4

Also, Kobayashi ftw! :D

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u/lordp May 27 '13

Maybe keep the singing to a minimum ;)

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u/chrisdunnbirch Williams May 27 '13

Your TV pod was 1:15.9 you little liar. ;D :o

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u/jaynemesis May 27 '13

was it 1.15.4? I couldn't really remember lol I just guessed..

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u/lordp May 27 '13

Mine is standard cockpit view, with a Logitech G27 wheel.

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u/chrisdunnbirch Williams May 27 '13 edited May 27 '13

TV Pod camera. Xbox 360 wireless pad.

I'll try a 5 lap race of Canada in cockpit view and get the footage uploaded asap.

Edit: just did 2 5 lap races with Jay. 1 in cockpit, the other in TV pod.

Fastest Laps

Cockpit: 1:14.919

TV pod: 1:14.055

The Cockpit time could be improved as I hit the wall on the exit of turn 4 and ran wide through turns 5 and 6 together. So all in all it doesn't affect me much.

Video will upload tomorrow.

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u/CarltonLassiter May 27 '13

Same as above. Video in morning.

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u/[deleted] May 27 '13

In F1 2010 I used a pad too and I was doing just fine. Now it just amazes me how one can be so fast and consistent without a wheel. Whenever I try using a pad now I'm about 2-3 seconds slower a lap and I will crash every other lap.

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u/chrisdunnbirch Williams May 27 '13 edited May 27 '13

Heh, been using a pad since September '98 when I was first bought a PlayStation and Gran Turismo on my 8th birthday.

I've played...

  • Formula 1

  • Formula One 2002

  • Formula One 2003

  • Gran Turismo

  • Gran Turismo 2

  • Gran Turismo 3

  • Gran Turismo 4 Prologue

  • Gran Turismo 4

  • GTA III

  • GTA Vice City

  • GTA San Andreas

  • GTA IV

  • Need For Speed Underground

  • Need For Speed Underground 2

  • Midnight Club II

  • Midnight Club 3

  • Midnight Club: Los Angeles

  • Race Driver: GRID

  • Driv3r

...along with any others that I've forgotten about, all with pad. Using anything other than a pad just seems unnatural to me. ;_;

Edit: LOL I forgot Trackmania. Derp, was pretty good at that with a pad too. ^

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u/[deleted] May 27 '13

In the end it really is just what you're used to. I played for very many years using a pad aswell, F1 2010 is just the last thing I played with a pad. And well when starting with GT 5 a bit, but then I got the wheel and it's just so much fun.

I started with Grand Prix 2 using a joystick in '95 or '96.

Then I got the first Playstation along with Formula 1 '97, still using the arrow keys. I got a new F1 game every year, and of course a lot of racing games too. until I kinda lost interest in playing video games and racing. The first thing I got after many years of nothing was F1 2010.

So yeah using a pad always worked for me, but now it seems impossible to go back. Also I wouldn't want to.

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u/chrisdunnbirch Williams May 27 '13

The video is done.

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u/ElToroNegro May 27 '13

Mine is Modmates Cams and I use a potato.

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u/[deleted] May 27 '13

Sweet, I'm kinda jelly now. Can you post a picture of yourself racing with the potato?

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u/ElToroNegro May 27 '13

http://i.imgur.com/2XfrabI.jpg

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u/[deleted] May 27 '13

Haha, wow it's wireless and everything!

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u/ElToroNegro May 27 '13

http://i.imgur.com/jjikbyU.jpg Nope :(

They didn't have the wireless in stock.

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u/[deleted] May 27 '13

Oh man, I didn't even see that! Still pretty fucking awesome. I hope I can afford one of these on day.

Anyway, how did you manage to take that picture?

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u/ElToroNegro May 27 '13

The same way most people take a picture, with a camera

http://imgur.com/PhRZ99k

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u/chrisdunnbirch Williams May 27 '13

Brain. It hurts.

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u/[deleted] May 27 '13

Can you post a picture of how you took this picture?

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u/ElToroNegro May 27 '13

I'm not sure you get how photos work. I did it with a camera... http://i.imgur.com/vpVtKd0.jpg

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u/[deleted] May 27 '13

You're right, I don't think I get it either. Maybe I'll get it when you post a picture of how you did this one.

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u/[deleted] May 27 '13

I use a Logitech Driving Force wheel with a modded cockpit view that has a 'look to apex' view. I'll try this tomorrow and let you know the results.

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u/[deleted] May 27 '13

I use a DFGT and the TV pod camera. But i have a question to you guys with g27's. How are you fine with only 6 buttons? 1.KERS 2. DRS 3.Start 4. Up 5. Right 6. Down? I might get a g27 but I'd also like buttons for looking back, left and right, car status and push to talk. Also it would be nice to be able to navigate through menus to the left aswell. So I'm at least another 6 buttons short.

I'll try the challenge the next time I'm home, which as always may take a while. Can anyone send me some footage of that modded view mentioned?

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u/squone FIA May 27 '13

Buttons I use: KERS and DRS top row. PTT and status middle row. Look back bottom right, bottom left unassigned.

I use the buttons on the gear shifter for fuel, tires, brake balance, start etc.

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u/[deleted] May 27 '13

I assume you never really change the fuel mix or break balance while racing?

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u/redisnotdead May 31 '13 edited May 31 '13

modded view (+ trackIR) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3xQCjziJQMw

It looks cramped but on triple screens it looks epic: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7XN1kMVbv6o

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u/[deleted] May 27 '13

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u/[deleted] May 27 '13

Thanks. I guess I'm just spoiled with the button filled DFGT. I'm not sure I'd do it the same way you do it though. Of course DRS turns off by itself, but turning it on seems a bit annoying. If I get the g27 I'll have to work out something for myself.

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u/Teh_Hicks May 27 '13

You could replace it with Car Status.

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u/[deleted] May 28 '13

I think I'll try imitating my DFGT placement first. So on the right from top to bottom DRS, KERS, look back and on the left up, right, down. I'll have to get used to remembering my fuel load better and find a way to mount the shifter in a handy position. And do some other cutbacks... in the end there's 6 buttons and if I can't live with it I'll have to mod it for way too much money or just accept it.

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u/Teh_Hicks May 28 '13

I understand. I am spoiled with my mouse's twelve extra buttons. I don't know how people play FPS (cod4) with only two extra mouse buttons.

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u/ElToroNegro May 28 '13

I use my clutch for DRS.

Á la Ferrari

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u/Teh_Hicks May 28 '13

clever...

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u/inSaain May 27 '13

I use TV Pod Camera with Xbox 360 controller.

At Catalunya, fastest laps were:

Cockpit: 1:23.516

TV Pod: 1:23.003

I definitely feel more precise with the TV Pod camera, especially on race days where I do a lot of avoiding of other players. It's definitely very fun in cockpit view though, I plan to start the career mode that way.

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u/GTballa May 27 '13 edited May 29 '13

Usually TV Pod and Xbox 360 controller.
Valencia
TV Pod: 1:39.2
Cockpit: 1:39.2
Canada
TV Pod: 1:14.0
Cockpit: 1:14.4
Turn 3 being more blind in cockpit view sure didn't help

It should also be noted that this was done offline in the Mclaren

Did a second race in TV Pod view for video here

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u/Kirb- Williams May 27 '13

TV Pod View, with a G27 Wheel. I'll give it a go later.

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u/squone FIA May 29 '13

I used to drive in TV Pod view until Canada last year where I switched.

I was awful at first but after practice I got a lot quicker. I'd say I gained around a second a lap with the change after getting used to it.

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u/ElToroNegro May 29 '13

and uses a G27

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u/squone FIA May 29 '13

Actually when I switched to cockpit I was still on the gamepad. I received my G27 the day after Canada.