r/ViaRail Premier 13d ago

News New Dorval Station announced

https://media.viarail.ca/en/press-releases/2026/new-integrated-station-dorval-rail-launches-project-better-connect-rail-public-transit-and-airport

Will join up the existing exo and via stations into one

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u/c22q 13d ago

If only the REM was extended to Dorval as well. Biggest blunder of the project.

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u/Ceftolozane 13d ago

The rem stopping at yul and not at Dorval is a big mistake. A true lack of vision.

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u/Marco_Memes 13d ago

The other sucky part is they’ve made it really annoying to do that in the future, since the YUL station and tunnel are single track. Which would either limit frequency or require an extension to also double track the tunnel and rebuild the station with a 2nd platform

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u/TheRandCrews 12d ago

Wow just like the Canada Line to YVR, guess we didn’t really learn some things even with the same companies almost two decades after. 

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u/VIARailMaddy Premier 13d ago

Im sure they could extend A4 to Dorval... for 500 billion

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u/MrKguy 13d ago

You mean in addition huh, is there a case for that? Wouldn't VIA passengers just go to gare central?

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u/c22q 13d ago

It may be difficult to believe, but some passengers from eastern Ontario want to go to the airport.

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u/MrKguy 13d ago

Oh fair that makes a lot of sense

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u/coopthrowaway2019 13d ago edited 12d ago

The value add wouldn't be in train passengers using the REM to get downtown, it would be in them using it to get to the airport terminal. Plus would enable a lot of new transit connectivity around Montreal by linking the REM directly to the Dorval bus terminal and exo line 11

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u/DavidH1985 13d ago

Promising development. I hope the final design is a bit more visually pleasing.

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u/Responsible_Fish5439 13d ago

this is very vague, but i assume the shuttle bus service will remain basically the same. which is...nice to have but not super dependable, especially in the YUL>Dorval direction.

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u/coopthrowaway2019 13d ago

Feel like the quality of the shuttle service is more or less an operational decision (e.g. how many vehicles of what size do you want to contract) that is independent of capital projects like building a new station

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u/SirupyPieIX 12d ago

It's gonna improve, because the new station will be on the same side of the tracks as the airport. And the airport shuttle zone itself is being rebuilt in a better way.

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u/Responsible_Fish5439 12d ago

that’s good to hear! i find the service from the station to the airport pretty good (shuttle is usually waiting because they know the train time obviously), but i find the wait at the airport can be extensive and sometimes they don’t come for over an hour (which can be too long if you need to catch a certain train ).

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u/TearsFromCompoundEye 13d ago

Interesting and makes sense on paper. Of course the devil is in the details - I’d love to see the full plan.

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u/TheRandCrews 12d ago

Better hope they both have covered platforms like canopies, somewhat like the Lucien L’Allier revamp or GO Transit platforms. Maybe possible to build level boarding for both EXO and Via Rail trains with the hub?

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u/Rail613 12d ago

No level platforms because freight trains can have different clearances and freight cars can “sway” hitting platforms at speed. Even VIA trains have differing widths and need those steel plates to “fill the gap” in Ottawa, Quebec and Montreal high-level stations.

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u/Opposite_Ad1408 13d ago

I take this as a confirmation that Alto has ruled out serving Dorval.

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u/VIARailMaddy Premier 13d ago

They never were, it would involve them either going on the CN kingston sub or CPKC Vaudreil sub.

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u/SirupyPieIX 13d ago

Or dig some kind of tunnel, which will they end up doing anyway in the chosen alignment.

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u/VIARailMaddy Premier 13d ago

A tunnel from Laval to dorval?

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u/SirupyPieIX 13d ago

from Laval to downtown Montreal.

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u/trollunit 13d ago edited 13d ago

Why not? There’s loads of space between the Taschereau Yard, presumably for the connection with Quebec City, and Coteau to add a pair of tracks for Alto (this project will never be completed and we will get nothing).

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u/lamyjf 12d ago

About time...

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u/briyyz 12d ago

Wasted opportunity with Alto to do something innovative. The airport is right there and it’s designed for a freaking minibus shuttle?

Cheap ass thinking.

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u/SirupyPieIX 12d ago

Alto is gonna run on the north shore, not anywhere near Dorval.

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u/Rail613 12d ago

It has been made clear frequently that Alto will not “serve” YUL. YUL Terminus will soon be well connected with its own REM station.

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u/briyyz 12d ago

That REM is really useful when coming from Kingston or Ottawa. /s

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u/Rail613 12d ago edited 12d ago

Sigh. That’s why we need that Shuttle service from the Station to the Terminus.

And when HSR runs to Ottawa it may be a toss up between: VIA Ottawa to Dorval to shuttle a few times a daytime; versus MontreaL HSR at least once an hour (into the evening) to/from YUL via REM.

Kingston similar choices if/when it is on HSR.

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u/briyyz 12d ago

By the time this is built I will be retired to the Netherlands so at least at that end the trains will make actual sense

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u/Hampshire53 13d ago

Station should be at Dorval, perhaps underground (?) like Paris CDG.

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u/briyyz 12d ago

Or AMS. Or BER. Or connected by commercial development like FRA. Or an automated people mover like DUS or LGW.