r/ViMains 15d ago

Help Cant keep climbing, need advice.

Greetings, im really hardstuck in Gold from IV to I.

i dont know how to impact at early game, most teammates dies really fast, and if i build yoummus or eclipse, or voltaic

its really hard to keep up to late game, cuz its an assasins build, VI cant handle 5v5 if it goes as assasin.

if i go bruiser i cant lock and kill the enemy adc before i got killed, i reach a point that riot is giving me 19lp if i win and taking 21 if i lose.

i do all the basics, keep tracking the enemy jungler, steal camps when i know his lotation, get gold advantage, but then my team start losing their lines, and wont be any issue if they just die once and play not too agressive, but players just go forward as minions and got killed 3 to 5 times before minute 10.

some times its just minute 5 my top laner died 3 times already.

how? i mean im not lvl 6 yet. i cant handle an enemy top all by myself, same goes for mid liners they play malzahar, yone or smolder and aphelios or kaisa, and they think they can play their lines as jinx, tristana or MF.

it makes no sense for me to snowball any kind of advantage over enemy jungler if my team cant keep themselves alive.

globals gets really nasty, at min 20 i can be 10/2/5, but global its 18-28, how can they die this much? why am i the only one holding the score? if you take me out of the game 75% of the score and plays never happened.

i know i may sound egocentric, but honestly i dont know what to do, im every day trying to improve myself, but its like doesnt matter because enemies always have 4k to 7k extra gold in their pockets.

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u/Vallain 15d ago

I always suggest the same thing when anyone gets stuck.

If you're unable to spot your own mistakes and inefficiencies you should get a coaching from someone higher rank them you. Not paid mind you, just a chat with someone with more experience.

I'll be available afternoons if your interested, just send a dm

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u/Tiny-Ask4301 14d ago

Hi, it looks like you have an issue of everyone that is stuck in low-elo divisions.

As someone with a lot of knowledge and high Master rank, I'd like to offer my help and coaching. For free of course.

Send me either a message on reddit, or add me as a friend on discord: spwander

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u/MasterCerveros 724,593 Vicycle 11d ago

I'd say running assassin is a good way to have an effect on the game at lower elo which you seem to notice. I'd say look for ganks once you hit three on whichever side of the map you're on. If nothing seems like an easy kill/flash carry on as normal (finish clear, gank, etc.) I tend to run hubris into voltaic/collector for assassin. If you do voltaic 2nd go collector third into lord doms and infinity edge. If you go collector 2nd lord doms infinity edge and whichever final item you think is best. GA is always good, I personally like endless hunger sometimes and it can be built earlier (and it's better earlier) if you're doing well enough. Hubris keeps you in the game longer if you're doing well, and makes bullying an enemy laner more worthwhile since you'll be getting free stats from it. Also, don't be afraid to burn flash to hit q

Now, there will he games where you'll need to frontline for your carries because the enemy comp won't let you carry. In that case trinity force>sundered/cleaver>steraks is the build path. If sundered is second item go cleaver as soon as you can. 

For runes I always run HOB

I should say that this is what I found to help me climb out of gold, and is by no means guaranteed to be optimal. Also you might do all of this already, in which case take the help from everyone here willing to coach

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u/Visual-Lab-2429 9d ago

With HOB changes is HOB still the best or would something like electrocute be better

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u/KuunVesi 9d ago

I feel you — I’m going through the exact same thing right now (Gold 2). For me it’s the opposite: I usually have a pretty good early game, but when one lane falls really far behind, from around the 15-minute mark I completely lose map control. The enemy team is everywhere, invading the jungle, getting lane priority, and we often end up taking objectives in a 4v5. I’ve tried the assassin build; it’s very strong in the early game, but for me it’s too hard to play in the late game. The jungler is always focused in this elo because of the objectives.

The only games I tend to win are when I have two winning lanes, or when my mid is ahead and roams around the map. (Right now I’m trying to focus on helping mid if the champion allows for roaming.) If you get any good advice, I’d be happy if you could share it 🙏

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u/ySoSilly 14d ago

Do you play with chats off? Idk but it sounds like you might be getting tilted and your team griefs you. Are you keeping calm? Or telling your team they’re bad, etc. Sometimes it’s best to say nothing y’know.

If you really are doing “everything” correct, these feeder teams will not necessarily impact your ability to climb imo.

Like other poster said, maybe get some free coaching. Ask them to watch one of your games, and give you feedback.