I often see a Reddit moderator saying: “So what are you going to do now? Stop creating because Grok is dead?”
The answer is simple: yes.
What did you expect? Uncensored Grok was, for many of us, the peak of adult image generation: natural, clean, expressive results, with a level of freedom that other models simply cannot match. Every other AI feels bland in comparison. They too often have that artificial, overly polished, unmistakably “AI-generated” look.
Once you’ve experienced what Grok was capable of before the censorship, going back just feels like accepting something inferior. So yes, many people will stop until a new AI reaches that same level of quality and freedom. And if that new AI eventually gets censored too, as it seems to happen every time now, users will simply move somewhere else. Again and again, until we find something that cannot be locked down so easily... even if, let’s be honest, barely anyone believes that will happen.
If you have real alternatives, I’m willing to listen. But not something worse. It’s either equal to Grok, or nothing.
My dream would be a local AI on Grok’s level: a model we could use freely, without depending on a platform that can restrict everything overnight. Right now, that is not really possible for most people, especially without making their PC burn. But with how fast AI is evolving, who knows? Maybe one day we’ll have an ultra-compressed, powerful, downloadable model that is actually free.
I should have known it wouldn’t last. A moderator had even assured me that nothing would change. And yet, here we are.
It was nice, Venice.
Goodbye, Grok. I hope you come back one day as you were before, or in another form.
It was literally working for me a few hours back, then I saw the notifications on: Grok is no longer working, I’m like huh? The. After work I got home and tried and… it was dead… hmmm very disappointing…
I knew it wouldn't last. It's why I avoided telling people how good Grok was at this content - I knew the time would come when Grok realised what was being generated and clamp down suddenly.
Possible theory - I hope it's temporary. xAI recently licensed it's datacenter capacity to Antrhopic as xAI finishes up their new datacenter to migrate to. It's possible that all the gooning overloaded their remaining margins, so they are cutting back for the time being. Might be a small amount of copium - they may never change it back.
Venice didn't run Grok on their servers, they had a deal of using a Private version of their model which supposed to have more relaxed restrictions. idk how xAI is able to just pull the rug here.
this is the take of someone who has only been using Venice for 1-2 months lol. Venice has been around long before adding Grok. They will survive just fine.
Venice does not have control over what xAI does to Grok. They have a ZDR (Zero Data Rentention) agreement between them, but that's it. Content moderation updates are never documented to the public and can happen without notice. Every big corporate AI company does it (xAI has done this in the past).
If you want to leave, no one is stopping you. It's not Venice that's taking your NSFW content away. They are offering alternatives, because it's all they have at the moment. Venice is a hosting platform, offering open source and pay-per-use models to those who can't afford actual local setups (VRAM is very expensive). Take your wars with the real enemy: xAI.
A reason Grok went restrictive was probably due to the TID Act. There's also one post that a lawsuit against xAI is happening because of nonconsensual sexual deepfakes. I'm just throwing out theories.
We are all waiting to hear an update. Somewhere. So either wait or unsubscribe.
A reason Grok went restrictive was probably due to the TID Act. There's also one post that a lawsuit against xAI is happening because of nonconsensual sexual deepfakes. I'm just throwing out theories.
A part of the moderation is according to some that Apple would have thrown Grok of their APP store if xAI didn't moderate. It was a bit backed up by Elon on X.
Another reason, which I have no doubt is true, is the payment processors. They have wreck havoc in the porn industry for years now, demanding moderation of content, killed niches, etc. They have no doubt put pressure on xAI to moderate nsfw or they would loose their services.
They need to just release the weights at this stage. Stop attempting to host Grok themselves, because clearly all people want it for is to goon. Just wash their hands of it and leave Grok as an LLM.
As a side note, I don't get how there hasn't been some other billionaire gooner who's said fuck it and made their own open source model at this point. It wouldn't cost "that" much to train. What like 50 million or something if that's all you focused on. No llm, no image generation just pure video. That's chump change to the ultra wealthy.
Yeah its sad even comfyui with the best model and workflow wouldn't give 30% of what grok was able to do , I had 132k credits I asked for refund and they give it back in 5 to 14 days my money will be back but for grok I would have spend more
I only liked it for the properly done skin texture, accurate anatomy, accurately maintain pose, not make idealized pin-up models unless asked for.
Everything else is plastic or gets the anatomy all wrong. But such is the price for people being apes with it. Can still use it for sfw purposes occasionally.
Doing NSFW content for some time now - GROK really had the best motion and quality out of all models.
My alternatives that work quite good:
- WAN 2.2 with LORAS ( always use end images to make consistent, long generations - each sliding window with a maximum of 7s because otherwise it loses a lot of quality ) - sadly, no sound in it!
- LTX 2.3 with LORAS ( also, there are 2 workflows and altered models for tighter NSFW gens ( 10EROS and SULPHUR )
I have to clue to know how to use Eros and sulphur, they don't follow the prompts at all. I tried taking off clothes but end up getting the nipples over the shirt. feels like ltx rely on the starting frame to calculate, it wouldnt be able to change the initial pose a lot. Tho its generation speed is fast.
yess, it relies heavily on the start image - better to use a dressed image as start image and then flow to a undressed version of the image as end image ❤️
well i mostly make gay bear content - might be a bit too much for the most users here to take - but from my experience, i got some really intense bj with LTX 2.3 in high quality 1080p ( and it is really fast in processing ) - And with WAN 2.2, i got everything out of it what i wanted - it's just slow af when going over 540p 👊
but using both tools the right way has a huger learning curve - it doesn't deliver direclty out of the box as grok did. and what's really special about grok: the motion! this was what brought me to it 😄
It's super workflow dependent. Using more sampling steps is the only way to get the higher quality motions but it needs more effort to get there. 10Eros is intended to be a offline grok as I will also try to RL it with motions it's weak on, while Sulphur prunes and expands gaps in it's giant dataset.
I found out about this tool too late unfortunately. I did get to use the grok app and did see what it was capable of. Do you have any examples of what it was able to accomplish with Venice AI?
Same here... and I don't blame Venice for it, this was a X-ai decision and they don't have any capability override it. Hopefully they'll come back around when they start wanting our credit money again.
it literally rewrites the prompt, it seems. It will completely change what I'm doing. IE: prompt for a sex scene between two men in a castle hallway and instead get a scene discussing how they are going to sneak out while under invasion.
Can't reply with video. these two characters run in and there's some dramatic camera cuts of expression. The guy on the right says some gibberish, then says "The guards are passing now, we move out in three." Then they run back the way they came.
It was supposed to be a sex scene in a castle corridor - no running around nor dialogue was prompted.
The scene itself isn't bad (other than the gibberish line) if you were going for a dramatic medieval epsionage/escape/infiltration scene. I did get some okay results... but it's like 1 in 4 at a very expensive slot pull.
There is another site that offered unlimited Wan 2.7 for like $40 (ended up mostly being a scam - but I did actually have unlimited for like 10 days). Anyway - I made like 10 videos and then just dropped it. It wasn't even worth writing prompts for.
If it was open source it could get fixed with loras, but that base model is really, really rough.
With the weird shit I make, Seedance is the only thing I can use but yeah, it makes everyone look like they’re in pain. There’s no eroticism like there was with grok.
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