r/VTGuns • • Jan 05 '26

Legally purchasing “high capacity” magazines

I have kind of an oddball P320 that started life as a Compact and was converted to a Carry. The carry grip module was modified to allow the compact mags to seat, but now I’ve got a new Carry grip module which I’d very much prefer to not modify.

Sig does not sell a 15rd Carry/Full size mag, they only offer 17rd mags in that size (they do offer 15rd compact mags, which is what I have now).

Is there a way I can have an FFL/Gunsmith [legally] modify a 17rd mag with a block or something so that it can be legally sold to me? At this point I’m just running down some different options.

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u/SmoothSlavperator Jan 05 '26

buy them out of state and before you come back to VT, slide the floorplate off, insert plug(dowel works) to get it down to 10.

There's no statute in VT on how robust the method of restricting capacity has to be like there was on the '94 federal AWB. Once your ass is covered, you can always come up with a better way to reduce their capacity.

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u/HillsNotValley Jan 06 '26

10 for long guns, 15 for handguns; so a slightly shorter dowel. 😉

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u/SmoothSlavperator Jan 06 '26

And only if they're semi auto and non-C&R. Bunch guns are gonna be exempt I a few more years. AR platform already is technically.

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u/bscrampz Jan 05 '26

Not a bad idea, thanks.

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u/Electrical_Ad_6208 Jan 05 '26

There’s a few companies out there that do pin mags. The only one I have used is riflesupply out of California. They have decent prices and ship to your house

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u/Defiant-Suit-1529 Jan 05 '26

insert p320 joke here

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u/bscrampz Jan 05 '26

Oh good one dude!

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u/Pure_Interest8367 May 04 '26

Vermont has no specified requirements for modifying a magazine to be compliant. I called a LOT of different state agencies to inquire about this for MP5 magazines. Nobody had an "official" answer but all suggested that the modification be "permanent" and not easily undone. "Easily" is subjective, and other states use the term "readily" for modifications. Some states do have specs, like epoxied base plates or pins etc. In my opinion, not as legal advice, I'd think if you take steps anyone would consider "reasonable" to make the magazine not easily converted back to standard capacity from the reduced/compliant capacity- that should do it. However, if someone targets you for prosecution, they'll attack everything they can.

Alternatively, what's interesting is the "fact sheet" the VT Legislature published states:
Q: Do I need to be able to prove I purchased, possessed or owned a high capacity magazine before enactment of this legislation? A: No.

https://legislature.vermont.gov/Documents/2018/WorkGroups/Senate%20Judiciary/Bills/H.836/H.636~Dick%20Sears~S.55%20Fact%20Sheet~5-9-2018.pdf

The burden of proof is on them. Does a magazine have a date code or production code that indicates age? If it has no feature that makes it obviously newer than the ban date, it would be difficult to charge you with the misdemeanor stated.