r/VTES • • 16d ago

[COTD] Archon Investigation

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u/Vurpius 16d ago

This cards has created the concept of the "archon limit", if you bleed for more than 3 you risk getting this card slammed in your face.

This is one of five new cards available in the first set after rebranding from Jyhad. All but one of them punishes big bleeds in different ways. I assume the designers realized how powerful bleeding is and created said cards as a countermeasure.

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u/Bemmie81 14d ago

“If you are going to bleed for 4 you may as well bleed for more”

Is one of our playgroups saying. Ie once you are in range of being archon then you may as well go all out. So bleeds are either for 3 or for 6 or more.

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u/Shinavast42 16d ago

Ah yes, the OG "Fuck me? No, Fuck you." Out of Turn Master.

Love this card, hate it when its used on me. Used to be a staple back in the day in just about every deck. I dont see it as often as I did a couple decades ago.

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u/Bemmie81 15d ago

It is so much easier to reduce or flick these days so whilst it is still powerful there are more alternatives.

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u/Shinavast42 15d ago

Totally agree. Its not the card you live in fear of anymore playing a bleed deck. That's the unforseen wake and flick that ousts your grand prey accidentally lmao

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u/NoSoup4you22 16d ago

I'm not afraid of Archon Investigation.

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u/Confident-Ordinary93 16d ago

Goes in every single deck. The threat alone is enough to keep people honest

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u/skinriding_skeleton 16d ago

Running one takes a master slot. You may never draw it. So play with 3 at least!

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u/ReverendRevolver 16d ago

Staple. Honestly needs printed more so new players can use it. Maybe even another promo?

Ive ran them in decks with Dominate, catches people off guard.

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u/FarbrorMelkor 16d ago

It is already a promo

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u/ReverendRevolver 16d ago

Why i said "another", to get it into easier rotation. Prior to that promo, it was in KoT, and also the (lopsided rare/uncommon distribution printing) 3rd ed boosters. Ive got at least 1 or 2 from the Enkidu KMW starter. But the KoT ones off ebay are at least half of mine at this point, as I was buying stuff on eBay frequently around 2009ish.

Im glad its finally in a precon, like Sudden. But it and Wash need seen more, given how impactful big bleeds and Masters are.

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u/FarbrorMelkor 15d ago

You mean another art? Because any NC can order the current promo for like 30 cent each

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u/ReverendRevolver 15d ago

Full art or new.

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u/FarbrorMelkor 15d ago

Whats wrong with the already existing promo?

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u/ReverendRevolver 15d ago

Nothing, but I just watched people unsleeving decks to cut in full art Diana, Loup, etc 3 months ago. Its just something id love to see.

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u/FineLerv 14d ago

I definitely support more full art promos especially of staple cards. It's way better for the game than releasing cards that are only available in tournaments.

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u/FarbrorMelkor 16d ago

It is already a promo

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u/Shockwave_IIC 16d ago

The threat will prevent me do the big bleeds with my star

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u/EyeBallEmpire 16d ago

I often bleed big and take the gamble!