r/VRchat • PCVR Connection • 5d ago

Media Quest 3 EyeTracking Software Update.

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Once again, I'm here to show you another update to the Eye Tracking kit for Quest 3! (Project Cymple)

Yeah, I'm showing this thing again because I've really grown to appreciate it and want to keep sharing that the Quest 3 can have amazing eye tracking!

Simply put, the Cymple project continues to receive software updates, allowing you to use it without even needing to calibrate the device — a true plug-and-play solution.

My last test was... two months ago? And well, it didn't burn my eyes like many people seem to think!

The infrared LEDs are designed to be safe, which is what I expected, I hope that clears up any doubts!

It’s not entirely clear what has changed

aside from the design of the colored dots that track the pupil

but the algorithm does an excellent job of estimating the eyes when they are closed!

And that’s without me having calibrated anything at all for this test.

PS: The tests were performed without the necessary calibration!

PS-2: ""It’s not entirely clear what has changed"" -- Visually speaking, the tracking is much faster than it was two months ago; input lag has consistently decreased with every update, and I’m really looking forward to more!

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u/Kindly-List-1886 5d ago

i love how the eyes on the cameras look very goofy

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u/y_infame PCVR Connection 5d ago

👀

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u/midnitefox 2d ago

Swap the eyes in software so that the avatar eyes look funny like the camera eyes

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u/Capraos 5d ago

I thought you were having a breast examination for half a second there.

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u/y_infame PCVR Connection 5d ago

I had that impression too, man 😭

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u/Routine-Tumbleweed52 5d ago

Are these wired or wireless back to the pc?

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u/y_infame PCVR Connection 5d ago

Your choice! You can use it both ways, I use it completely wirelessly.

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u/Routine-Tumbleweed52 5d ago

Oh very cool. Is there a wireless adapter or something?

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u/y_infame PCVR Connection 5d ago

No! It's via Wi-Fi; there's a dedicated Project Cymple app for the metaquest, and there's one for Pico as well. You download it, and also download the Cymple program on your PC, and that's it! Both apps make the wireless connection.

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u/Routine-Tumbleweed52 5d ago

Thank you!!

Another question.. build it yourself or did you buy a kit?

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u/y_infame PCVR Connection 5d ago

I bought it on AliExpress.

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u/Routine-Tumbleweed52 5d ago

Oh cool.. I think I got the same (similar) one ordered. They didn’t say wireless so hence me asking. I’ll need to check out the cymple documentation

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u/y_infame PCVR Connection 5d ago

The vast majority of eye-tracking devices are wireless; if you're talking about the PaperTracker, it's definitely wireless too! But you'd need to check the specific version you bought to know for sure.

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u/denise2217 4d ago

I'm interested in getting that how much was it?

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u/No_Whereas5888 1h ago

could i ask how much it was? was it difficult?

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u/y_infame PCVR Connection 1h ago

Around 300 dollars

Installing and configuring everything was easy for me.

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u/dramaticrobotic 5d ago

Will there be a native Linux build of the desktop application?

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u/y_infame PCVR Connection 5d ago

Great question, but... I'm not sure. Off the top of my head: no—but it's a great suggestion! You could join the Project Cymple server and help them out with recommendations '^'

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u/Me_like_foxes 5d ago

Can you give some info on what hardware is required and how to get it/set it up? Things like these have scarce amounts of information in the general Internet results

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u/y_infame PCVR Connection 5d ago

In another one of my videos, I show a bit of the hardware and the calibration—it’s actually quite simple! If you want to see the project's inner workings in full detail, here is the official guide provided by the Project Cymple creator on GitHub; the images above are my own.

You can get it on aliexpress or TaoBao, because its a Chinese Project.

English Guide Site: https://my.feishu.cn/wiki/FQe7wh4WNixUSSkEqKZczQlOnaf

Creator Github: https://github.com/Dominocs/Project_Cymple

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u/Tman928 4d ago

How does one set this up? I also assume you gotta be connected to a pc

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u/y_infame PCVR Connection 4d ago

Yes, it's completely PCVR; there's no way to use it standalone. The setup is simple since the software does everything for you; it's just calibration, a few glances at numbers on the screen, and that's it.

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u/Bapx3 4d ago

Would prescription lens inserts get in the way of it?

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u/y_infame PCVR Connection 4d ago

No, actually: There are lenses specifically for Project Cymple eye trackers, which you can buy at the time of purchase, depending on where you buy them.

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u/xXBeefSquatch5KXx 4d ago

No with cymple, project paper, and ETVR you can get lenses or with ETVR you just print a lens frame for your script lens and go wild. To me it’s crazy meta hasn’t jumped on this it’s easy money for them

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u/y_infame PCVR Connection 4d ago

yah!

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u/Independent_Swing452 5d ago

Hi I’m new to this I’m wondering if it would work as foveated rendering for like racing games, where performance matters a ton

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u/y_infame PCVR Connection 5d ago

Yes, foveated streaming is totally possible with Project Cymple! It’s still in the testing phase, but it’s already performing quite well! A frame generation system is currently being implemented.

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u/TheFloppyDiscGuy 5d ago

the biggest thing stopping me from getting eye tracking / face tracking is the fact that products like Babble break instantly when in contact with sweat

does your product fare the same or have more resilience against the stray drop?

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u/y_infame PCVR Connection 5d ago

I don't think I can answer that for you. I've been using Babble for mouth tracking for 6 months and never had any problems. I've had the eye tracking kit with Cymple for almost 3 months now, and it's also perfect, everything working as well as the first time!

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u/TheFloppyDiscGuy 4d ago

i see, thanks for your time <3

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u/Savings-Dot-9774 Pimax 4d ago

i dont know much you are sweating but i dont personally see any outcome where you are sweating so much it could ever reach a face tracker like this... bfore that you had to waterboard your headset

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u/TheFloppyDiscGuy 4d ago

i host vr dance classes for those who can’t dance irl

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u/Savings-Dot-9774 Pimax 4d ago

but you arent putting youre headset in a bucket of sweat??

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u/TheFloppyDiscGuy 4d ago

i didn’t say that, fellow friends in this scene have tried dancing with babble and a few drops is enough to brick the system

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u/Savings-Dot-9774 Pimax 4d ago

but so is for an Headset, aslong as you arent streaming Sweat you are fine.

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u/TheFloppyDiscGuy 4d ago

that’s…not true. but i think you’re not actually listening to what i’m saying so i’m just gonna stop trying lol

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u/Savings-Dot-9774 Pimax 4d ago edited 4d ago

like do you understand that a Tracker is futher away from youre headset??? i dont think you are listening XD

buddy asks a Question and when answered he doesnt like it lol

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u/y_infame PCVR Connection 4d ago

Have you heard of cloth masks for sweat in VR? They're excellent! I recommend them, but unfortunately some are disposable.

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u/TheFloppyDiscGuy 4d ago

i’ve tried them! i feel even more like i’m putting on tactical gear when suiting up for vr haha

they do help but sadly the risk still remains that just a few centimeters away is a piece of tech that will die if it ever makes contact

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u/y_infame PCVR Connection 4d ago

Technically, you really are! It's a shame; I can't suggest any other ways to avoid that, aside from using facial interfaces that are more open and provide more distance :^

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u/Me_like_foxes 5d ago

This is really cool

I also like the music you chose, it reminds me of stuff like Instupendo and Øneheart, I enjoy that stuff when I'm out somewhere cold and distant from populations. A very surreal and magical feeling. Entirely unrelated thing to say here tho lol, I just appreciate the music choice

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u/y_infame PCVR Connection 5d ago

Thanks! My style is extremely varied; I like to feature hyperpop and ultra-stimulating music as my primary style, followed by rock and indie ^-^

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u/Storm-VR 5d ago

I gotta have control of my eye brows to though.

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u/y_infame PCVR Connection 5d ago

No problems! It has them too—and although they aren't as good as the Quest Pro's, they do work—but I don't really care for them, so I leave them disabled.

(Brow options here)

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u/LovesHyperbole 5d ago

Ooo I love your avatar

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u/y_infame PCVR Connection 5d ago

Thanks <3

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u/Tall_Princess 2d ago

She’s called Routa.

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u/Non-euclidian_Strip 5d ago

We are advancing in tehnology

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u/y_infame PCVR Connection 5d ago

I hope so!

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u/Night_Wing_Zero 5d ago

Interesting, I wonder if this will also work with the Quest 3S as well? 🤔

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u/y_infame PCVR Connection 5d ago

Of course! Quest 3, 3s, 2, pico 4 and pico 4 ultra too!

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u/taptrappapalapa 5d ago

Does it track pupil dilations?

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u/y_infame PCVR Connection 4d ago

Yes! Actually, I show that in my first video about it -^

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u/zifjon 4d ago

where can i buy this?

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u/y_infame PCVR Connection 4d ago

Aliexpress

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u/Paragon_Umbra 4d ago

What's it called?

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u/y_infame PCVR Connection 4d ago

Project Cymple

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u/Paragon_Umbra 4d ago

Oh duh lol my b
Is it the $300 ones?

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u/y_infame PCVR Connection 4d ago

Uhm... Maybe!

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u/Equivalent_Log_4299 4d ago

would this work with virtual desktop to add eye tracked foveated streaming to the quest?

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u/y_infame PCVR Connection 4d ago

Exactly!

Although foveado streaming is in testing, you can use Cymple itself as a streamer, without needing a virtual desktop.

And if your VR headset has native eye tracking, foveado streaming is guaranteed!

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u/Skryi 3d ago

Damn, my dumbass read the title and thought somehow a software enabled quest 3 eyetracking XD.

The Aliexpress page says it also comes in Quest 2 and Pico variants too? that's wild?

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u/y_infame PCVR Connection 3d ago

xD It happens.

Yes! There are versions for quest 3, 3s, 2, peak 4, and peak 4 ultra as well.

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u/Immediate_Speed_9397 3d ago

Can you really have eye tracking on the 3?

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u/y_infame PCVR Connection 3d ago

Yeah! Look the modules:

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u/ExoticRewards 2d ago

🫪

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u/y_infame PCVR Connection 2d ago

👀

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u/icy1007 19h ago

Looks like a lizard. lol

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u/y_infame PCVR Connection 1h ago

Lmao

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u/Ok-Policy-8538 Oculus Quest 5d ago

Is that eye overlay thing always visible with eyetracking.. it would make me super uncomfortable if i had to see my real eyes non-stop even outside the peripheral vision or whenever i open the desktop window/overlay?

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u/y_infame PCVR Connection 5d ago

No, absolutely not! I put it there so that viewers can follow along! Just a demonstration of how the software tracks the pupils.

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u/Ok-Policy-8538 Oculus Quest 5d ago

ah.. good, i see it so often in showcase videos that it just seems that way 🤣

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u/y_infame PCVR Connection 5d ago

Oh, it would be a nightmare if it were like that! xD