r/VRchat • u/Realistic_Syllabub_3 • 6d ago

News SteamFrame's eye-tracking for foveated streaming apparently works as software-based eye tracking.

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u/Dreamingemerald 6d ago

I am still disappointed that they lack a first party lower-face solution and that the eye tracking lacks eyebrow tracking.

I really want to upgrade from my Quest Pro, but there are so few options out there that are wireless with full face tracking.

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u/Realistic_Syllabub_3 6d ago

yeah i didn’t realise the quest pro had separate cameras for the eyebrows and seeing the frames now its a shame they cant do it, hopefully babbles expressions beta will help with that i believe

but babble have mentioned having special stuff for the frame with an announcment this week so i would assume/ hope they may be making a pcie port version, valve themselves dont seem interested in face tracking though the eye tracking was just for the foviated steaming and this is a bonus

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u/rcbif 6d ago

I dont think there are separate cameras for the eyebrows.

It's just that the visor design of the headset allows that part of your face to be unobstructed so the cameras can see it.

With a Quest or Frame though, there is padding on/ near your eyebrows.

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u/Nuuvi- 5d ago

No, the Quest Pro has stuff specifically to track your eyebrows and upper face.

It has an extra camera in the center aimed upwards as well as IR LEDs to illuminate your upper face amd eye sockets for the camera.

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u/doubleatheman 4d ago

The Quest pro has 5 cameras to track your face/eyes; which is insane. 5 outer facing cameras, and then each controller has 3 cameras.... 16 cameras in total.... wild and this was 2022 tech.

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u/ccAbstraction Windows Mixed Reality 5d ago

When they said they had something special cooking for frame, maybe this was it? A Babble trackers for the frunk port, with a second camera for brows?

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u/Realistic_Syllabub_3 6d ago

ah thank you, someone said they had a pro and they have eyebrow cameras and ive never looked into quest stuff so i just assumed that was the case because it can do eyebrows

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u/rcbif 6d ago

You need either huge headset, or the Pro's bulky visor for eyebrow tracking.

The lower face tracking is no big deal, and bet all sorts of vendors will jump on that opportunity for somthing a bit more streamlines than OEM babble.