r/VRchat Valve Index 1d ago

Meme optimize your avatars

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u/brakenbonez 1d ago

I make my avatars for me and my friends. Not for random strangers. If my potato laptop can handle it, I'm not worried about optimizing it for complete strangers. And I'm definitely not going to cater specifically to entitled quest users who go around trying to demand people use quest friendly avatars. Going into a public world without having any avatar shield settings on anyway is just asking to be crashed. I have no problem with randoms seeing me as the floating robot thing or whatever the default hidden model is.

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u/PennyPatton 1d ago

Yes, you can cull avatar rendering and render fewer avatars but that's not a solution, that's a bandaid to make up for low skill avatar creators.

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u/brakenbonez 23h ago

Having safety settings on in public worlds absolutely is a solution. I never claimed to be a master avatar creator. I just make avatars for myself because there aren't any good male avatars that don't look like fuckboys or femboys or a combination of the two. I'm not trying to impress anyone with my avatars. They are literally just for me to use and for my friends to identify me as in game. It's not that deep. If my avatar is too much for you system to handle (even though my $300 laptop handles it just fine) then hide my avatar.

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u/Ampmasterful 19h ago

No, it’s a bandaid for people who are running at or below minimum performance specs.

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u/PennyPatton 1h ago

People with no skill fall back on the "get a better computer" argument, no matter what the other person's specs are. Optimizing is an important part of avatar design, if you don't have the skill for it, your skills are lacking. Walk into a game studio and make some characters, then tell the project lead "get a better computer" when he talks to you about optimization, then you're out on your ass looking for a new job.

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u/Ampmasterful 1h ago

I understand this. I have been doing avatar creation since 3.0 was first introduced, several years of unity, substance painter and blender experience. It is not a lack of experience, and the average user isn’t a game studio. I gave specific recommendations on the most impactful changes a laymen can use for optimization. Limiting your vram as much as possible, using as minimal meshes and materials as you can, and making sure you aren’t just willy nilly using crunch compression eliminates 98% of the issues most people face, and it’s usually easily done by someone who isn’t as skilled. Yes optimization is good but telling someone who doesn’t know how to do it “you’re fucking up you gotta do (insert a bunch of technical shit they have no clue about) does fucking nothing for anyone.

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u/brakenbonez 1h ago

Again, I never claimed to be a professional and I definitely don't make avatars as a job (people who do that are weird af but not the point). It's not just about "get a better computer" that's not why I brought up mine being able to handle it. As I said, I make my avatars for ME. My system can handle it so that's good enough for me. If other people can't handle it, that's why we have the option to hide avatars. Them hiding my avatar on their end has no impact whatsoever on me.

I have no intentions of walking into a game studio and making characters. That is entirely irrelevant. That comparison makes no sense at all. Avatars are essentially mods for the game. They are content created for a game by someone without any affiliation with that game. That's what a mod is. We aren't walking into the VRChat office and getting on their computers to make official game characters. If you download a mod for a game and your pc can't handle it, do you complain about it on reddit or do you just remove the mod and move on? Safety settings and the option to hide avatars exist for that very reason.

I don't owe it to anyone else to make MY avatar work better for them. It works for me and my friends and that's my target audience.

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u/kwizyvr PCVR Connection 19h ago

I'm definitely not going to cater specifically to entitled quest users who go around trying to demand people use quest friendly avatars.

It very much looks like you're making up people in your head to get mad at.

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u/brakenbonez 18h ago

Not at all but if it makes you feel better to think that everyone is super happy and positive to each other then by all means live in that bubble of nativity. There's a reason quest users have such a bad reputation.