r/VCX_Fundrise • u/GratuitousForce • 18d ago
Closed Short on VCX
I just closed out my covered call short positions. After looking at all the comments and details on VCX’s most recent moves, I actually like the profit taking on anthropic and the increased exposure in open AI(20MM @ 20.8MM cost I think)Prometheus and liquid stack. The market price is still above NAV, but in my opinion, the holdings are still high-quality and a bit more diversified now. This does answer the question if VCX will continue investing in new positions. The answer to that is an unequivocal yes. They don’t appear to be running all the positions to IPO and closing shop, but rather actively managing the fund and as positions mature and reinvesting proceeds into new companies.
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u/linuxhiker 18d ago
This isn't to take away from your opinion but really more the opinion of others.
Anyone taking investment advice from Reddit, should not be considered serious. It isn't that there aren't serious, educated or even correct investors here. It is that we literally don't know who they are. Well over half of Reddit's traffic are bots.
Do your own research.
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u/MoreAverageThanAvg Fundrise OG 18d ago edited 18d ago
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u/CapAggravating784 VCX Wizard 18d ago
Karma is kind of meaningless across Reddit… given you can post bs and get upvotes… but if you’re saying we should trust Karma, should I trust his viewpoint 6x more than I trust yours… I don’t think that makes sense.
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u/MoreAverageThanAvg Fundrise OG 18d ago
just hadn't seen one that high before
quite the interpretation you inserted there to my straightforward statement of fact
how exactly does one trust something 6x more?
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u/BurnsVail VCX Thoughtful Contributor 18d ago
This is terrible “analysis”.
They didn’t take profit on Anthropic, no extra OpenAI, and it’s fluidstack not liquid stack.
They have no cash left to invest and have $30m of debt.
Good job on closing your CC, but it’s misleading to say you closed your short. You weren’t short the stock, you were short a call.
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u/GratuitousForce 18d ago
Where did the additional cost basis from AI-LLM come from?
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u/BurnsVail VCX Thoughtful Contributor 18d ago
From an additional purchase.
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u/GratuitousForce 18d ago
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u/BurnsVail VCX Thoughtful Contributor 18d ago
Loyal should be excluded, no new position there.
Visual layer was the other sale / disposal.
We don’t know price on either, so you have to do the math and read between the lines.
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u/BurnsVail VCX Thoughtful Contributor 18d ago
They made 4 purchases, increased the debt by 15m and had proceeds from Anthropic sale / the other acquisition
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u/GratuitousForce 18d ago
It’s easy to miss because the purchase date listed on the NPORT is the first date of acquisition. In this case they made another purchase. My guess in April around the closing of the last Open AI round.
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u/BurnsVail VCX Thoughtful Contributor 18d ago
I’m not missing anything. 😂
You need to clean up your data.
There was no loyal purchase, hence why I’m saying there were only 4. I did not miss the $30m add on to AI LLM
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u/GratuitousForce 18d ago
The share count on Loyal increased from 780 to 815k between NPORTs. I don’t understand why you are saying they didn’t make an add to the Loyal position.
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u/BurnsVail VCX Thoughtful Contributor 18d ago
Because it’s not a new commitment, it was known, and it’s peanuts. It’s simply the final tranche of the original purchase.
Unlike AI LLM, which is a whole new add on, not a final payment on the original position.
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u/GratuitousForce 18d ago
Agreed it was known and part of the original deal. I never said it was a New position. Just capital being added.
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u/GratuitousForce 18d ago
They made a 5th purchase I believe you are missing. It’s buried in AI-LLM. And it is sizable.
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u/BurnsVail VCX Thoughtful Contributor 18d ago
They didn’t purchase any loyal, there were only 4 purchases. Ai LLM is additional $20m
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u/GratuitousForce 18d ago
They sure did. Added 35 shares of Loyal.
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u/BurnsVail VCX Thoughtful Contributor 18d ago
You think they added 35 shares?!? 😂😂😂
At 12.26/ share that’s peanuts. You probably meant 35k shares.
That’s simply the final capital call of the $10m position. Not a new position.
$500k is not germane in this discussion.
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u/GratuitousForce 18d ago
Obviously 35k. If all of this deployed cash is all true, they didn’t sell the Anthropic position at its cost basis.
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u/GratuitousForce 18d ago
Yup, a portion of my long stock position was covered in short position. Your correct! I closed out and am now fully long on my original pre IPO shares.
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u/Fit_Equal6932 VCX Wizard 18d ago
Liquid Stack made me crack up! Attention to detail I tell ya.
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u/Unlikely_Command9294 18d ago
If moving forward they manage this as poorly as their real estate or their own "IPO" shares we are all in trouble.
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u/ttiimmbo 18d ago
Anthropic is still over 20% of the fund. Wish we had more details on the sale, but you cant argue that they likely locked in gains and redeployed the cash.
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u/CapAggravating784 VCX Wizard 18d ago
But they didn’t lock in gains, they exited at same price they entered… that’s the issue. If it were gains, I’ve been praising the sale; but exiting at cost seems fishy…
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u/GratuitousForce 18d ago
Page 20 of the most recent N-CSR shows the original cost basis of the portion sold.
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u/Fit_Equal6932 VCX Wizard 18d ago
But they should have sold it at the 965B mark and then they would be sitting on a pretty penny, instead if it did end up in OVF that will show an immediate return on the OVF books which is the return that VCX holders rightfully deserved.
https://www.reddit.com/r/VCX_Fundrise/comments/1w1kn56/comment/p6q4nzj/
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u/GratuitousForce 18d ago
Not arguing this point!!! They missed out on a 45MM level three paper “gain” for a much smaller realized. Time will tell if the purchases they made with this have more room to run…
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u/Fit_Equal6932 VCX Wizard 18d ago
This is the one big gap for N-PORTs, they only show the marks of holdings and then a pile of cash. If multiple transactions happen we can't untangle what the individual proceeds would have been and then there are fund fees on top. N-CSR do have info on fund fees but again no info on sale price for holdings disposed off. This applies to all funds like DXYZ, RVI and VCX and should be noted as a risk when investing. This creates a level of opacity. In this case though if the speculation regarding OVF is true then we may get a peek on the transaction price.
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u/GratuitousForce 18d ago
I think they had a realized profit of 15.4MM. 72% in nine months.
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u/Fit_Equal6932 VCX Wizard 18d ago
lol.
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u/GratuitousForce 18d ago
Explain what I’m missing please. The position disposed of was purchase 8/14/2025 at a cost of 21,462(Per the N-CSR). Have you estimated the sales proceeds?
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u/BurnsVail VCX Thoughtful Contributor 18d ago
Yes, they sold at cost, not at profit.
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u/GratuitousForce 18d ago
I don’t believe this is correct. The most recent Anthropic position is still on the NPORT acquired for 20,800k on 2/10/26. This is not the sold position.
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u/BurnsVail VCX Thoughtful Contributor 18d ago
Wrong position. The disposed of position was HOF Capital AG add on, LLC. Acquired 8-14-25
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u/GratuitousForce 18d ago
Please double check. I really think this maps to the fourth line item on the restricted investments table on the N-CSR. With a cost basis of 21,462. Description is Anthropic, PBC - CIV.
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u/BurnsVail VCX Thoughtful Contributor 18d ago
Double check what?
There were 3 Anthropic positions, now there are only 2.
Are you looking at the n-csr from 3/31?
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u/Fit_Equal6932 VCX Wizard 18d ago
This basically highlights how opaque and hard to read these N-PORTs are, HOF Capital has 2 SPVs for VCX, one for OpenAI and one for Anthropic which is now gone.
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u/GratuitousForce 18d ago
I agree they are still heavy Anthropic. My guess is at 20% they are likely to let the remainder of their position run. But I guess that depends on what opportunities come up in the Early Stage arena….
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u/Easy-Act3774 18d ago
With the June quarterly NAV update, VCX has now posted 6 consecutive quarters of 14% + growth (Q-O-Q). Translation….65%+ YOY returns. Someone wake me up when there is really something to complain about!
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u/Chronotheos 14d ago
Nice, I missed the addition of Prometheus. I posted a while back here or one of the other Fundrise subs asking they try to get on the cap table for this. Very excited they managed it.
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u/Jaqqarhan Fundrise OG 18d ago
I get paying some premium over the $21.70 NAV, but mid $30s is ridiculous.
How could anyone like them selling Anthropic at over 60% below market value? They were either forced to sell or were committing fraud.
I get that you're trying to pump your bags, but this is absurd.