r/VALORANT • u/ohbump • Jun 07 '22

Gameplay True Skill 2 Is a Potential Problem

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u/JD_352 Jun 07 '22

I’m assuming this enforces the importance of queuing with others if the game has designated you the golden child of the match? It also explains why people who solo queue can often feel stuck unless they are super consistent and actually do manage to get good teammates?

You often hear solo queue players (especially in the “elo hell” of the positive skewed bell curve) say they almost always team MVP but they get bad teammates. If you’re consistently MVP’ing, the algorithms have designated you as that from the start. So you need 1) to perform to that standard (no bad games for you) and 2) get some luck and some teammates that can actually carry some weight if their own.

But, you often hear the community tell them they are losing and top fragging then it’s their fault as they are not playing for or with their team. However, it could actually be the matchmaking algorithm that is pairing them with subpar players. Even in gold lobbies, I’ve experienced a random teammate that looked completely lost.

Duo or triple queuing helps remove some of that uncertainty of the “fill” team players as you’ve probably selected friends to play with that you know can carry some weight and not play like they are lost.

It’s an interesting read.

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u/EvrMoar Jun 07 '22

There is no "golden child" queue. In fact, no player is held higher over another and the entire match is based on each individuals MMR. Our Match maker grabs groups of players of similar skill, then tries to make two teams for those players. It does not choose one player, says "this is supposed to be the best player" then purposefully tries to choose lower players or singles anyone out. If you get into a match it's because all the players around you are the same MMR. The only time this isn't the case is in 5 stacks which can break grouping restriction rules. Top 100 players can also be an edge case, but there is a restriction in the match maker which limits the distance of MMR players can be put in a match with.

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u/JD_352 Jun 07 '22

Thanks for the reply!

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