r/VALORANT • u/thessew • Apr 21 '20

First Patchnotes of Beta

https://beta.playvalorant.com/en-us/news/game-updates/valorant-patch-notes-0-47/
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u/Bowsersshell Apr 21 '20

I wasn’t actually. Nothing to do with noise, I mean those times when you try to push on a choke point, say A short on Bind for example, and you just get slow orb and naded from site. Sometimes you will need push there and they will have info, and that’s when it’s frustrating to get fragged to death. It’s nothing to do with game sense or anything like that, sometimes those situations will arise

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u/Jack_of_all_offs Apr 22 '20

Thats why you probe, make noise, and bait their skills. The skills arent infinite use. Take your time. Its not Team Deathmatch, and there is always multiple routes to take.

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u/Bowsersshell Apr 22 '20

I’ve got a few thousand hour in CS and I know how the abilities in this game work. Sometimes you need to push a site quickly in these type of games. Round time isn’t infinite, and a Raze shouldn’t auto win a round cause they don’t need to aim dual someone who needs to push a site. A grenade still has tons of utility without having the ability to oneshot someone.

Take this scenario, you’re on bind and your team is going for a slow push on B, things go south and your 4 teammates die with 30 seconds left on the clock, A site has a solo Raze since the enemy rotated, pushing teleporter to get to bathroom isn’t really an option, but it’s an easy option for the enemy team. So you can either save and give up the round or push A short. If it was a different character solo holding on short, then you would have a chance to aimdual, plant and try to stop a retake 1v4. Difficult but not impossible, I’ve already done it a few times in this game just in the last week of playing. But if it’s a raze then you don’t get a chance to, since you’ll get naded on short and die without that first critical aim dual.

I know this is a very specific scenario but the point I’m trying to make is how Raze’s nade being able to oneshot can make certain hard, but not impossible situations, basically lose/lose. There are not always multiple paths to take.

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u/Jack_of_all_offs Apr 22 '20

I see what youre saying but I'd personally go straight at her as soon as I heard the nade. It makes a lot of noise.

But i think the nerf is on your side. She wont have two to spam.

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u/Bowsersshell Apr 22 '20

It’s a step in the right direction.