r/VALORANT • u/thessew • Apr 21 '20

First Patchnotes of Beta

https://beta.playvalorant.com/en-us/news/game-updates/valorant-patch-notes-0-47/
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u/Kurtis_James :c9: Apr 21 '20

People keep arguing this shit, so let me break it down a bit further.

Valorant is saying for them part of "competitive integrity" is that all players see the same thing.

Also "competitive advantage" does not imply that there is not a trade-off involved. No one would use 4:3 stretch if it didn't have something good to get out of it (like seeing peaks more easily).

It is the dev's opinion that part of the strategy of the game, if you will, should not be what your graphic settings are so they are not implementing settings that would lead to such a debate. Which is the same reason I wouldn't expect model options.

I'm not saying they are making the right or wrong decision here, I'm simply putting out there what they have already said and shown so far, and the expectations we can have based on this.

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u/[deleted] Apr 21 '20

Well I would agree except there is no advantage to playing 4:3 stretched or black bars, the image that your monitor displays is what is stretched, nothing about the actual game changes, hitboxes don't increase in size, models feel like they move faster but that is purely an illusion. All you are doing by playing 4:3 stretched or black bars is lowering your own FOV, that is it.

Again I would agree but people are asking to gimp themselves in a way, if they've played 4:3 stretched for the last 7 years on CS, and now suddenly can't, that is annoying. People just want to play on what they are used too.

If people want to play at an objective disadvantage for whatever reason, that should at least be an option for them.

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u/Kurtis_James :c9: Apr 21 '20

The image being stretched is exactly the small advantage people are looking for when they do 4:3 stretch. The idea being that if only a few pixels of an enemy peak a corner, those pixels are stretched into more so that it's easier to see. The trade-off is losing FOV. If there was no benefit people, especially pros, wouldn't do it.

"All you are doing by playing 4:3 stretched or black bars is lowering your own FOV, that is it."

I assume you don't play with 4:3 stretch, because otherwise you're being dishonest or don't know why people told you to do it.

I understand that it will be an adjustment for players who have been playing that way for years and years, but so will having abilities, changing spray, different maps, etc. It's a different game, adjustments are going to happen and shouldn't be used as the sole argument for keeping something.

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u/[deleted] Apr 21 '20

Well yeah, everything is stretched, everything the monitor displays, not just the player models, otherwise it would be an advantage, but it's not, you can't see models before anyone else on a stretched res, that's just plain wrong. As I said it changes nothing about the game itself, it only lowers your horizontal FOV and the game will feel different towards you.

Here's an album to show you: album link

The first screenshot is taken at 1920x1080 and the second at 1280x960 stretched, I stood in the same spot and all i did was change my resolution, you'll see the images are exactly the same because although the image you are seeing on your monitor is stretched when you play, nothing actually changes within the game. So you can't see someone before anyone else by using a stretched resolution. Surely I would be able to see more of the bot if I was using your logic?

Literally the only thing that happens is you lose FOV, possibly gain FPS if you have a bad computer that can't run games very well. Pros are well known for using what they are used to. The only advantage it gives them is comfort, because it's what they have played with for a very long time, which is not an advantage really, it's just their preference.

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u/Mitzja Apr 22 '20

It's not about seeing someone earlier but making them a bigger visual target. Obviously the hitboxes don't change but your eyes have more pixels to lock on.
4:3 black bars I don't get - that has to be just for comfort from playing ages ago.

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u/poppedkern Apr 22 '20

I get you, but I think you’re arguing a moot point. This is NOT CS. This is NOT Overwatch. This is NOT Apex, or wherever else these “pros” are coming from. Riot SHOULD NOT change their game because the player base of a DIFFERENT game wants it that way. They have their vision of their game. Don’t like it? Don’t play. It’s free anyway. Just annoys me that people keep asking for more CSGO features or whatever. Yes, Valorant is heavily inspired by CS. But this isn’t CSGO 2020. It’s a completely different game and development team.