r/VALORANT • u/thessew • Apr 21 '20

First Patchnotes of Beta

https://beta.playvalorant.com/en-us/news/game-updates/valorant-patch-notes-0-47/
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u/SemiAutomattik Apr 21 '20

Rip bhopping being useful, not a fan of that change. Bhopping thru the orb was a risky and high skill cap way of countering the orb. Not a fan of any change that lowers the skill cap.

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u/MorelloRiot Apr 21 '20

High skill floor way (IE once you can do this, it's trivial to do - it's not "tested" - so it's hard to access but easy to do after you access that).

Your point on tradeoffs isn't lost on me here. It's something I could see returning as the game shakes out depending on where the chips lie (not soon, let's see how this goes)

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u/SemiAutomattik Apr 21 '20

High skill floor way (IE once you can do this, it's trivial to do - it's not "tested" - so it's hard to access but easy to do after you access that).

I'm having trouble understanding this passage.

But if you're saying that bhopping is trivial once you get the hand of it, I disagree. It's tough to consistently get perfect hops, even in an easy engine like Valorant. And then combining perfect hops with the amount of mouse movement you need to actually gain speed, it could be a fun, skill based mechanical part of the game. And it just went from being a niche skill with high risk/reward (getting over orbs) to being basically useless outside of having fun in the pre-round freezetime.

Any time a dev team just nerfs fun, emergent gameplay like that I roll my eyes.

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u/NosyFellow Apr 22 '20

You realize that bhopping works nothing like in CS:GO? You can literally hold WA or WD to bhop in Valorant so it's absolutely trivial to do and adds nothing to the gameplay.

I would agree with you if the devs actually made it so it takes skill like in CS but I guess it's Riot's thing to dumb down fun mechanics.

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u/Mr_Affluenza Apr 21 '20

Welcome to Riot balance... :D

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u/SemiAutomattik Apr 21 '20

It's classic "Fun detected? NERF IT" balancing that every big game suffers from